How COVID-19 is affecting society

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

This is gonna add another dose of anger that can be easily aimed by unscrupulous demagogues, and no rational, reality based, counterpoints will be effective.

Fed study ties 1918 flu pandemic to Nazi Party gains

The paper examined municipal spending levels and voter extremism in Germany from the time of the initial influenza outbreak until 1933.

www.politico.com

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

More Tennessee

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Nine in 10 in UK still wearing masks despite end of Covid controls

ONS data suggests some Covid-enforced changes to daily life will remain after pandemic subsides

www.theguardian.com

Evernote link

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

Nine out of 10 are less stupid than Bloody Stupid Johnson.

 

[Romana]

 

[Sid]

Nine in 10 in UK still wearing masks despite end of Covid controls

ONS data suggests some Covid-enforced changes to daily life will remain after pandemic subsides

www.theguardian.com

Evernote link

Here in NL we were extremely late to the mask party for two reasons: Shortage of medical masks and the inefficiency of home made ones.
So there was a long winding discussion whether or not to go with them.
When we started easing the lockdown, the masks were the first to go again. NL was never really in the mask fanclub.

They are only mandatory in public transportation and other places where keeping enough distance is impossible.
We consider keeping distance, regular cleaning of the hands and ventilating indoors as much as possible still are far more important.
You can visit your doctor in hospital without mask. The doctor wears one during physical examinations and treatments.

I personally would prefer to keep the masks mandatory while shopping etc like in Germany.

 

[Beebo Brink]

 

[Essence Lumin]

The writer of this article is an idiot, but good for the hospital and no sympathy from me for the patient who won't get a vaccine to save his life.

Rantz: UW Medicine pulls heart transplant patient from list after refusing COVID vaccine - MyNorthwest.com

UW Medicine started denying organ transplants to patients refusing a COVID vaccine as early as June and won't directly answer questions about their policy.

mynorthwest.com

 

[Beebo Brink]

The writer of this article is an idiot, but good for the hospital and no sympathy from me for the patient who won't get a vaccine to save his life.

Yup. Why waste surgery on someone who will catch Covid-19 and die due to their suppressed immune system?

 

[Veritable Quandry]

Organ transplants require suppressing the patient's immune system until the body accepts the new organ. Unvaccinated patients are at significantly higher risk than the general population.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Organ transplants require suppressing the patient's immune system until the body accepts the new organ. Unvaccinated patients are at significantly higher risk than the general population.

It's a simple calculation -- whether the risk to the patient in undergoing the surgical procedure, including any necessary immunosuppressive drugs, is greater or lower than the risk of their not undergoing it, whether it's a heart transplant or anything else.

Since being unvaccinated adds massively to the risk of receiving immunosuppressive drugs right now, I'm not surprised that the hospital take the view that patients who refuse vaccination are better off not receiving the transplant since the combined risks of both the procedure and being unvaccinated while receiving immunosuppressive drugs make the procedure too dangerous to attempt.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

 

[Romana]

Reading the next tweet in the thread, it's no surprise this is happening.
Tragic, but not a surprise.
Those officers did not have to die.

 

[Romana]

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

Reading the next tweet in the thread, it's no surprise this is happening.
Tragic, but not a surprise.
Those officers did not have to die.

I love this from the union rep in the article:

Reyes said the threats and claims of selfishness are unfair since many people in the law enforcement community are not comfortable with the Food and Drug Administration’s emergency use authorization and they are waiting for the official approval.

LOL this cynical lie. Who wants to guess how many of these anti-vaxxers will be lining up to get the Pfizer vaccine once the FDA gives it full approval next week?

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

Who wants to guess how many of these anti-vaxxers will be lining up to get the Pfizer vaccine once the FDA gives it full approval next week?

I heard it could be as soon as Monday.

The cynic in me tells me there won't be much of an uptick in vaccination rates around the country when that happens.

 

[Lexxi]

Was looking at Twitter before logging off for the night. And saw the below tweet.

 

[Archer]

The difference between now and a year ago, though, is that no one is even discussing shutdowns this time. So cases will continue to grow unabated.

 

[danielravennest]

I've given up worrying about how their brains work. I've now moved on to wondering what the effect of these deaths (and long-term illnesses) will be on future elections. This wave (or undulation, since it could be argued it's all been one long wave) is hitting rural, evangelical GOP voters the hardest. They got by more lightly (comparatively speaking) during the Alpha phase, but now Delta is kicking them in the butt. I don't expect this to change their voting choices, but are the deaths sufficiently high to change the outcome of elections?

Primarily red counties will stay red, but with fewer votes. What about purple counties? Will they shift toward blue? Or have the deaths been comparable from both sides (primarily blue before, primarily red now)? Is this even a factor given the percentage of deaths is small? Are the actual numbers enough to make a difference?

Since I live in Georgia, I have looked at the numbers here. COVID has claimed about 0.2% more of the rural population than the urban counties. This is on top of the population shift where a number of rural counties have lost population since 2010, and most urban counties have gained population. The state as a whole gained 10.6% in population since the previous Census. You can scan down the list of counties by population and see the big ones mostly grew, and the small rural ones didn't. So politically, COVID has just accelerated a trend that was already happening a bit.

 

[danielravennest]

Orlando uses liquid oxygen to treat their water supply. There isn't enough because hospitals are using so much to treat covid patients.

Orlando mayor asks residents to start conserving water immediately due to liquid oxygen shortage

Dyer explained that many COVID-19 patients require liquid oxygen for their treatment. OUC has used liquid oxygen to treat the water supply for years.

www.wesh.com

Cape Canaveral, a couple of hours away, *makes* liquid oxygen from the air to fuel up rockets. Maybe they could send some to places with a shortage.

LOX as it is known in aerospace, condenses first before argon and nitrogen, the other significant components of air. So with a good enough refrigerator, it just condenses out.