How COVID-19 is affecting society

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(I think she means "Bonkers Johnson has lost even the Express").

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Sajid Javid was self-isolating on Saturday after testing positive for Covid, as senior public health leaders from across the UK accused Boris Johnson today of “letting Covid rip” by relaxing legal restrictions.

England’s health secretary, who is fully vaccinated, said he had mild symptoms and had taken a lateral flow test. He later tweeted to confirm the results after taking a more accurate PCR test.
It creates a headache for the prime minister. Under test and trace rules, anybody who has been in contact with Javid in the previous 48 hours would have to self-isolate. The health secretary is understood to have visited No 10 on Friday. That would leave Johnson in the uncomfortable position of spending so-called “freedom day” stuck inside No 10.
 
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In a country of 54 million people, "One very reputable public health specialist expects that the population will be decimated by at least 10-15 million by the time Covid is done with Myanmar. "

 

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In a country of 54 million people, "One very reputable public health specialist expects that the population will be decimated by at least 10-15 million by the time Covid is done with Myanmar. "

Without wishing to be pedantic about it, the horrifying statistic the headline-writer garbles by using a word so many people misuse that it's meaningless is that the specialist expects between 18% to 27% of Myanmar's population (some 55 million) to die from Covid during the course of the pandemic.
 

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This has all the hallmarks of another Johnsonian omnishambles.


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This explains a lot about my country's recent history


 
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Without wishing to be pedantic about it, the horrifying statistic the headline-writer garbles by using a word so many people misuse that it's meaningless is that the specialist expects between 18% to 27% of Myanmar's population (some 55 million) to die from Covid during the course of the pandemic.
Some etymology.

 
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Some etymology.

I learned latin at school, so I know what the Roman punishment was for legions that mutinied -- lining them up and executing every 10th man.

However, I avoid using the term because I know a lot of people seem to think it means reduce to ten percent of the original number, rather than by ten percent, and generally I use words in the hope of communicating thoughts or information so I stick to ones that won't inevitably cause confusion and cause loud cries of "Well, actually...".
 
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You no longer have to, but can't you do so if you want to? It's been lifted her for a while now, and I still see plenty of people with masks. Some people are afraid to let their guard down because of the delta variant (a quite understandable concern) and others like the way they didn't get sick from other things while wearing them.
Or would the anti -mask lunatics get hostile if you wore one?
My vaccination round will be done next Sunday and I feel like I will still wear a mask, but maybe be less concerned if I forget it. Mostly for concers about Delta.

It feels almost fruitless though as basically no one here is wearing masks anymore. Maybe they are all vaccinated. Given it's essentially rural America, I doubt it.
 

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My vaccination round will be done next Sunday and I feel like I will still wear a mask, but maybe be less concerned if I forget it. Mostly for concers about Delta.

It feels almost fruitless though as basically no one here is wearing masks anymore. Maybe they are all vaccinated. Given it's essentially rural America, I doubt it.
Please, please be careful and do not be lulled into a false sense of security by being double-vaccinated.

For one thing, it's not fully effective for (I think) 14 days after the second shot (it might be 10, but see what they tell you at the time) and even then, when it's fully effective, you're still vulnerable to the disease, though you're at a far lower risk of catching it in the first place and, if you are so unfortunate as to catch it anyway, despite the double vaccination, you're less likely to experience serious illness.

Our lockdown ends tomorrow but, as noted above, Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak are having to spend our "Freedom Day" tomorrow self-isolating, having been in a meeting recently with our Health Minister, Sajid Javid, who recently tested positive despite having had both shots.

Javid says he's suffering only mild symptoms -- "a bit groggy" -- but despite both being double-vaxed some weeks ago two US friends of mine in Georgia last week both came down with Covid after a trip (to my mind, highly ill-advised) to Florida, and are feeling considerably worse than somewhat groggy.

So please don't allow yourself to lower your guard just because you've been vaccinated -- the odds have shifted massively in your favour, but the risk is there and real, nevertheless.
 

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Mrs. Beebo and I have been watching a British TV series called The Indian Doctor, which was released 10 years go. Ten years. And it's like a gut punch watching the second season, which focuses on an outbreak of smallpox in the small Welsh village where Dr. Prem Sharma is the sole medical resource.

The townsfolk won't follow his urgent pleadings to stay home, to keep 6 feet of distance from others, to wear masks and most of all, to get vaccinated. The local minister, a smug self-righteous man, declines the vaccine because prayer will keep him safe and he organizes prayer gatherings, despite the laws against congregating in crowds.

Ten years ago and yet it feels like a story written yesterday.
 

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Please, please be careful and do not be lulled into a false sense of security by being double-vaccinated.

For one thing, it's not fully effective for (I think) 14 days after the second shot (it might be 10, but see what they tell you at the time) and even then, when it's fully effective, you're still vulnerable to the disease, though you're at a far lower risk of catching it in the first place and, if you are so unfortunate as to catch it anyway, despite the double vaccination, you're less likely to experience serious illness.

Our lockdown ends tomorrow but, as noted above, Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak are having to spend our "Freedom Day" tomorrow self-isolating, having been in a meeting recently with our Health Minister, Sajid Javid, who recently tested positive despite having had both shots.

Javid says he's suffering only mild symptoms -- "a bit groggy" -- but despite both being double-vaxed some weeks ago two US friends of mine in Georgia last week both came down with Covid after a trip (to my mind, highly ill-advised) to Florida, and are feeling considerably worse than somewhat groggy.

So please don't allow yourself to lower your guard just because you've been vaccinated -- the odds have shifted massively in your favour, but the risk is there and real, nevertheless.
It depends which vaccine. Pfizer and Moderna have better stats than J&J, and I don't know anything about AstraZeneca. But none can guarantee absolutely you won't get it, that's definite.
 

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It depends which vaccine. Pfizer and Moderna have better stats than J&J, and I don't know anything about AstraZeneca. But none can guarantee absolutely you won't get it, that's definite.
Sure, and while the various vaccines do have different stats, they're none of them that different.

By and large, after the shots are fully effective, your chance of catching Covid is around 5-%-10% of what otherwise it would be, but if if it's at the lower end of that, or even less, it's still not negligible and Delta is easily six times as infectious as Alpha.

Our rates are starting to take off now as lock down has eased off, and are going to take off from now on, until they peak in around six weeks time, at which point they'll be through the roof and hospitalisation and death rates, while far lower than they were during earlier peaks, are going to be very high indeed.

Despite being double vaccinated myself, I'm not letting my guard down and I advise others not to, either.
 
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Sure, and while the various vaccines do have different stats, they're none of them that different.

By and large, after the shots are fully effective, your chance of catching Covid is around 5-%-10% of what otherwise it would be, but if if it's at the lower end of that, or even less, it's still not negligible and Delta is easily six times as infectious as Alpha.
True, though your chance of dying goes down to almost zero.
 
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Sure, and while the various vaccines do have different stats, they're none of them that different.

By and large, after the shots are fully effective, your chance of catching Covid is around 5-%-10% of what otherwise it would be, but if if it's at the lower end of that, or even less, it's still not negligible and Delta is easily six times as infectious as Alpha.

Our rates are starting to take off now as lock down has eased off, and are going to take off from now on, until they peak in around six weeks time, at which point they'll be through the roof and hospitalisation and death rates, while far lower than they were during earlier peaks, are going to be very high indeed.

Despite being double vaccinated myself, I'm not letting my guard down and I advise others not to, either.
The mRNA vaccines are fundamentally different from the traditional type of vaccine. It's a whole different method of making it. And, as it was explained to me, it's easier to adapt them quickly if necessary, which is probably why they're working on a mRNA flu vaccine.
So they are rather different in some respects. But the main thing here is none of them guarantee 100% that you won't get it. It's supposed to guarantee that if you do get it, it will be a mild case, and you won't end up in the hospital, or die.
For me, i have to see what the next few months bring. Whether vaccinated people who get it can get long COVID, or suffer any of the long term effects.
Because of the freedumb COVIDIOTs, we may never be rid of this plague. And masks don't offer total protection to the wearer.. They're effective at preventing the wearer from spreading germs, less so at preventing the wearer from illness.
But I'll be wearing my mask because I'll take any advantage I can get.
 
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