Explosive Devices Sent To The Obamas, The Clintons And CNN Offices

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There's people on Facebook circulating memes claiming that Obama or Hillary sent those bombs, making it look like right extremists did it, in order to drum up more support for the DNC. The fuck is wrong with people?
Presumably they're much the same people who believe school shootings are staged by crisis actors working on behalf of the deep state (probably paid for by George Soros on behalf of the Illuminati), that Hillary Clinton was involved in a pedophile ring operating out of a pizza shop and that Q-anon is a reliable source of information.

I'm never actually sure how much of their nonsense these people do, in fact, actually believe. I mean, if people really did believe that children were being kidnapped and then sold on to prominent politician out of a Washington DC pizza shop, then presumably rather more than just one of them would have felt impelled to attend the shop and attempt to rescue the children from its non-existent basement, or at least to demonstrate outside the place to put a stop to such abuses.

Similarly, I'm not sure how many of them actually do think that it's more likely the Democrats have been sending each other bombs to improve their chances in the forthcoming elections than that some alt-right terrorists a mentally disturbed lone wolf was responsible. Some doubtless do, but many, I suspect, are simply content to repeat the explanation since it comforts them.
 

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There's people on Facebook circulating memes claiming that Obama or Hillary sent those bombs, making it look like right extremists did it, in order to drum up more support for the DNC. The fuck is wrong with people?
I believe it is called 'projecting'. It is something -they- would do, so of course their 'enemies' would, right?
 

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The fuck is wrong with people?
Nothing, in the sense that techniques like this actually work in their favor. They know they can just say something like this and it's out there being telephoned around the country. The right people believe it and that's enough. They're not stupid or even disingenuous. They are playing realpolitik.

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Fuck me for being hesitant with my outrage out of fear this is some false-flag left-wing desperate attempt to 'get out the vote', and fuck this world for making me feel cautious about condemning this because it 'might be fake news'.

As a 'false flag' operation, it could do nothing but backfire on the left, given how successfully the right is at turning every god damned thing into 'false flags' whether they are or not.

No... given how pervasive and unsuccessful this was, I'm convinced it's a FALSE-FALSE-FLAG op by right-wing neo-nazi trolls who just want to 1) show they can get away with this kind of domestic terrorism and 2) make the left lose their collective shit and look even less reasonable as a political power. And I've little doubt they will succeed on both counts.

Hourly Rusty Screwdriver Enema's for each and every one of the bombers while they serve out life-without-parole sentences in the most profit-oriented private prison oubliette that can be found.
 

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Whoever is doing this must surely know that all packages are intercepted and checked before heading to the important people, meaning that a serious injury to a postal worker or secret service member was a) acknowledged, b) hoped for, or even C) planned for. If "reckless endangerment of human life" or "criminal mischief" is a charge in USA like it is in Canada, it should be tacked onto the terrorism charge.
 

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Presumably they're much the same people who believe school shootings are staged by crisis actors working on behalf of the deep state (probably paid for by George Soros on behalf of the Illuminati), that Hillary Clinton was involved in a pedophile ring operating out of a pizza shop and that Q-anon is a reliable source of information.

I'm never actually sure how much of their nonsense these people do, in fact, actually believe. I mean, if people really did believe that children were being kidnapped and then sold on to prominent politician out of a Washington DC pizza shop, then presumably rather more than just one of them would have felt impelled to attend the shop and attempt to rescue the children from its non-existent basement, or at least to demonstrate outside the place to put a stop to such abuses.

Similarly, I'm not sure how many of them actually do think that it's more likely the Democrats have been sending each other bombs to improve their chances in the forthcoming elections than that some alt-right terrorists a mentally disturbed lone wolf was responsible. Some doubtless do, but many, I suspect, are simply content to repeat the explanation since it comforts them.
Nicely written, and you would think it would be the case that it would only be people you described, yet Fox News pundits are busy spreading the theory. Who knows what they believe as they really are just using their positions to promote the theories. I guarantee, also, at some point, one of Trump's thickheaded offspring will say something similar in coming days as well as Hannity. It will likely be featured on Fox & Friends, made into a discussion of just how insane the left is, and how it is willing to stage a false flag operation in order to affect the mid-terms.

Lou Dobbs promotes conspiracy theory that Democrats sent explosive devices to Clinton, Obama, and Soros to improve midterm chances
Prominent conservative activists and talking heads are promoting a conspiracy theory that Democrats sent explosive devices to Clinton, Obama, and Soros
 

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Trump also thought it was a good day to warn the media to stop comparing people — i.e. him and his base — to historical figures. It has to stop!

Oh really? Now learning from history is a hostile act?

Listening to him today in his rallies, I feel like I am in a Munich beer hall. It’s beyond surreal.
Then you get people saying he is not Hitler because history does not repeat himself.

To use a cliche though, history DOES rhyme. There are way too many similarities to 1930s Germany to ignore the lessons the world learned.
 

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One thing I saw on Rachel was this surprise that the bombs were so similar. Umm, yeah? To borrow a reference from Speed (I think) bombers are monogamous. They find something that works and stick with it over and over again. They do not try to improve it, they rarely make any change to their design, just the same thing over and over again.
 

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One thing I saw on Rachel was this surprise that the bombs were so similar. Umm, yeah? To borrow a reference from Speed (I think) bombers are monogamous. They find something that works and stick with it over and over again. They do not try to improve it, they rarely make any change to their design, just the same thing over and over again.
As I understand it from people I know who've been involved in counter-terrorism cases, bomb-makers usually have a easily-identifiable signatures (how they tie off wires, in particular, as I recall). At least the PIRA guys did, and they were pretty experienced.
 
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Then you get people saying he is not Hitler because history does not repeat himself.

To use a cliche though, history DOES rhyme. There are way too many similarities to 1930s Germany to ignore the lessons the world learned.
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As I understand it from people I know who've been involved in counter-terrorism cases, bomb-makers usually have an easily-identifiable signatures (how they tie off wires, in particular, as I recall). At least the PIRA guys did, and they were pretty experienced.
Based on the hours upon hours upon hours I’ve spent watching stuff like Forensics Files this tends to be the case because of two factors. One, most bombers share certain traits, and narcissism is one of the most common, so the desire to “sign” their work is often irresistible. Two, making bombs is bloody dangerous and once they find a construction method they know works, they don’t like to deviate from it at risk of blowing themselves up.

In this instance, it’s hard to believe so many devices distributed so widely to so many victims could be the work of a single terrorist. But having the undetonated bombs is a potential treasure trove of evidence, so it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
 

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All of these bombs were very crude; if the person who made them never made any before, it's likely they don't really have a "signature" separate from the general appearance of the bombs, and the identical envelopes they were all sent in.
 
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