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Where I'm at after a long night of mourning and despair:

You know what? We all made it through the last few times these assholes were in charge. It wasn't pretty or pleasant, but we made it.

We can make it this time too, if for no other reason than to spite them.
 

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Where I'm at after a long night of mourning and despair:

You know what? We all made it through the last few times these assholes were in charge. It wasn't pretty or pleasant, but we made it.

We can make it this time too, if for no other reason than to spite them.
I like the cut of your jib :)

You're right, but I'm also worried about how DT will lock up SCOTUS for the next 50 years while he fiddles with elections in order to become Emperor for Life.

I'm all for spiting the bastards but this election may have jaded me more than '16.
 
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May the Trump supporters get everything they so desperately sought after. And may they all choke on it.
The funny thing is, a lot of his policies are very unpopular even with many of his supporters. A lot of project 2025 will shock and horrify a lot of the internet trolls and white women who supported Trump so heavily. I also know a lot of conservatives who will be shocked and disgusted when Trump makes good on his promise to "end" the war in Ukraine by just surrendering to Russia. A lot of free market people will be mad if Trump's huge tariff passes and a lot of people will be mad when imported goods get a lot more expensive.

What scares me the most is some of the stuff that right wing media will be able to just lie about and cover up from his supporters. For example if the 2028 election is a huge scam, most right wingers will be none the wiser since the media they trust won't tell them. Same with women dying from emergency pregnancy complications.
 

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There's all sorts of shit that explains the present. And the following exclamation is not the total reason for the outcome. But.

We continue to live in a country where half our population will never be allowed to hold the highest office in the land.
 

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There's all sorts of shit that explains the present. And the following exclamation is not the total reason for the outcome. But.

We continue to live in a country where half our population will never be allowed to hold the highest office in the land.
Reminds me of a thing where (I think it was) Bill Gates was in Saudi and he was asked how Saudi could become more productive in the tech field, and Bill replied something like “Employ the other half of your population.”
 

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There's all sorts of shit that explains the present. And the following exclamation is not the total reason for the outcome. But.

We continue to live in a country where half our population will never be allowed to hold the highest office in the land.
I think with the way subconscious bias works for many Americans, a hypothetical lady candidate would have to be profoundly perfect to get elected. Harris wasn't PERFECT and that was enough to beat her. Any missteps will be punished a lot more dearly.

...this is also true of Hillary. Did she fuck things up on the campaign trail? YES. Would they have stopped her if she was a man? NO.

We saw some of that with Obama. The right lost their minds because he wore a freaking tan suit. I do think we established that sexism is stronger than racism, but Obama had to be quite strong to win.
 

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Reminds me of a thing where (I think it was) Bill Gates was in Saudi and he was asked how Saudi could become more productive in the tech field, and Bill replied something like “Employ the other half of your population.”
A quick poke around Google suggests that women make up the same proportion of the workforce in the tech field in Saudi as they do in the US.
Despite national conversations about the lack of diversity in tech, women are disproportionately missing out on the ongoing boom in IT jobs. While women make up 47% of all employed adults in the US, as of 2022, they hold only 28% of computing and mathematical roles , according to data from Zippia, with women identifying as Asian or Pacific Islander making up just 7% of the IT workforce and Black and Hispanic women accounting for 3% and 2%, respectively.
and, in Saudi
Saudi Arabia is undergoing a significant digital revolution, fueled by the ambitious goals of Vision 2030. Government initiatives and widespread technology adoption are propelling the nation towards becoming a leading digital economy. This exciting landscape presents a wealth of opportunities for entrepreneurs of all backgrounds to build and thrive in a dynamic environment. In 2021, women’s participation in the technology sector in Saudi Arabia was recorded at 28 percent, higher than the European average of 17.5 percent and a significant increase from previous years.
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Harris ran a beautiful campaign. There was for a time hope, and very real chance of things meaningfully improving. The country failed and was imperfect.

I want to have the missing 20 million votes explained. How all the ground game data trends and patterns were amazingly wrong. The inexplicable failure of 1 + 1 to equal 2. If it is truly the will of the people, then so be it. I however reserve my right to undying contempt for them.

I want to have some reason not to just check out on this fucking mess. My wife would miss me. Aside from that, I don't know if I want to live in this world any more. It was nice to have had hope for a little while at least.

Maybe I'll just live on spite for a while. FUCK THEM. I no longer have anything better to do than to remind them every fucking day that the next decade is all on their heads.
 

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I like the cut of your jib :)

You're right, but I'm also worried about how DT will lock up SCOTUS for the next 50 years while he fiddles with elections in order to become Emperor for Life.

I'm all for spiting the bastards but this election may have jaded me more than '16.
If it's any consolation, his reign as Emperor for Life will likely be mercifully short once all those hamberders and covfefe catch up with him.
 

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I wish the answer was voting fuckery, but the results were too widespread and too consistent. There is no way the widely disparate voting systems of all the counties and states in this country could have been hacked.
Most likely, yes. The answer is either truly epic rat fuckery, or the population really is mostly made up of blind hateful sheep. I would like to cling to the slightly more life affirming answer a little longer, but yes.
 

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At least I can feel vindicated in my belief that election polling, mostly at the presidential level but in general and including the A+ grade ones, are total bullshit and can no longer be trusted .

So score one for me. Yay...
I suspect that the reason they stopped working is because far too many people can't be effed to answer them. It's not that basic statistical math stopped working, it's that we are getting a huge response bias. I think this will just get worse because public attitudes towards the polls are getting worse. It's a downward spiral. I think they still "work" but the margin for error has to account for how many people refuse to answer...
 

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We laughed at the fall of communism.

Now the Russians are laughing at us.

Kleptocracy always returns. Rich get richer, poor get poorer... Lots of Time passes... Revolution... Rince and Repeat.

Not sure we'll live long enough to see it swing around again.