Democratic Party Presidential Candidates for 2020

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I know that you have the winning point of view. No doubt it's the intelligent point of view given all of the players involved. We have Saudi Arabia glued to one hand and Israel glued to the other. What could possibly go wrong? This train has left the station and it doesn't have brakes. We're going to need a really good poem for Iran.
Well, there's always Kipling's related poem, Recessional, which is particularly sombre when you recall it was written for the Queen-Empress' Diamond Jubilee. That would work

But I think the best one for Iran was written somewhat earlier:

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
`My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away".
 

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In the 21st century, the US has inserted it's military into Libya, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Uganda, Somalia, Northeastern Kenya, Pakistan, and our war in Afghanistan is old enough to be starting college soon.
Remember that is just the list we KNOW about too.
 

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Part of the same thread, it's a fun little thread to scroll up and read down.

 

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While overall, I of course prefer the Dems, this clownbus makes '15-'16s GOP clown car look like a normal passenger load.... how can any of these people think this is a good idea? Or is the idea to shotgun and hope someone comes out a clear winner by '20?
 
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While overall, I of course prefer the Dems, this clownbus makes '15-'16s GOP clown car look like a normal passenger load.... how can any of these people think this is a good idea? Or is the idea to shotgun and hope someone comes out a clear winner by '20?
You always have candidates who know they have no hope of winning the nomination. At most they are hoping to get attention for the VP slot or another post.
 

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I admit I had to google that, and while I remember now the 1984 reference, I'm left wondering why a company that makes moisture absorbancy packets would name their product that.
 

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I admit I had to google that, and while I remember now the 1984 reference, I'm left wondering why a company that makes moisture absorbancy packets would name their product that.
I am guessing they just had a rather unfortunate decision in the marketing department. Or someone was doing the equivalent of burning the place down on their last day.
 
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While overall, I of course prefer the Dems, this clownbus makes '15-'16s GOP clown car look like a normal passenger load.... how can any of these people think this is a good idea? Or is the idea to shotgun and hope someone comes out a clear winner by '20?
The republicans ran Ted Cruise and Ben Carson, and Trump ran as a republican. Now, I detest, despise, loathe, and generally dislike the corporate democrats and the DNC in general, but I'd take any of the running Democrats over what was on the 15-16 GOP clown car. I have to admit I know next to nothing about some of the dems...and I'd still take them over the GOP I do know.

As to why there are so many? The cynic in me thinks the plan is to make sure the first round of delegate voting fails to find a winner, so that the second round, where the superdelegates come in, assure the plutocrats that there will not be a President Bernie Sanders.
 

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The republicans ran Ted Cruise and Ben Carson, and Trump ran as a republican. Now, I detest, despise, loathe, and generally dislike the corporate democrats and the DNC in general, but I'd take any of the running Democrats over what was on the 15-16 GOP clown car. I have to admit I know next to nothing about some of the dems...and I'd still take them over the GOP I do know.

As to why there are so many? The cynic in me thinks the plan is to make sure the first round of delegate voting fails to find a winner, so that the second round, where the superdelegates come in, assure the plutocrats that there will not be a President Bernie Sanders.
You misunderstand my point; its not the quality of the candidates, its the quantity. Which, is why I prefaced it how I did. Only 20 qualified for the debates - fuck, I remember when usually you'd have 3-5 hopefuls, not 20+. Its foolishness, bound to divide the party and weaken the chance of getting rid of twitler.
 

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While overall, I of course prefer the Dems, this clownbus makes '15-'16s GOP clown car look like a normal passenger load.... how can any of these people think this is a good idea? Or is the idea to shotgun and hope someone comes out a clear winner by '20?
Running for President is a great way to (a) gain name recognition; (b) bolster the coffers. It's a very profitable business, thanks to Citizens United.
 

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As to why there are so many? The cynic in me thinks the plan is to make sure the first round of delegate voting fails to find a winner, so that the second round, where the superdelegates come in, assure the plutocrats that there will not be a President Bernie Sanders.
I'd say you see that pretty clearly. It was nice to see this version of Sanders show up at A Washington Post Interview recently. I hope he shows up at the next debates. Sanders is going to have to start calling out the obvious coordinated effort to paint him as just another face in the crowd. This was an effort to paint him as Biden. He'll have a tougher time against Warren and Harris. If he doesn't challenge them , he'll just be an unnecessary man. If he does, he'll be sexist.

 
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