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Spirits Rising

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And there you go, with at least some of the same bullshit that earned you the earlier reminder.
 
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And there you go, with at least some of the same bullshit that earned you the earlier reminder.
What? I gave you credible sources of stuff and you didn't read, just passed judgment. Perfect useful idiot.
 
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I don't need the lecture, thanks, spare the sanctimony. I don't put up things that are demonstrably false, and there are usually citations inside the videos. And I'm under no illusion that we have perfect candidates or politicians, they all have their weaknesses. But some more than others.

As for revolution: we had the Civil Rights movement, Women's Suffrage, Reproductive rights, LGBTQ rights. Those were large, sweeping changes that occurred without revolution. And that's what people are pushing for again. I am no anarchist. I am more of a social democrat (not the inverse).
Please look up the actual definition of anarchism instead of using the popular one, which nobody subscribes to.

If the means of production is moved to local co-ops owned by their employees and controlled by their stakeholders using consensus, that’s anarchist.
 

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Please look up the actual definition of anarchism instead of using the popular one, which nobody subscribes to.

If the means of production is moved to local co-ops owned by their employees and controlled by their stakeholders using consensus, that’s anarchist.
Hey, I'm with you on that. I am all for co-ops, like the German model.
 
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Laugh all you'd like, it doesn't change a single thing.

You had the reasons - all valid - for some to not bother with your videos laid out for you, you choose to ignore these reasons and fall back on calling people "tools" ...

I haven't "passed judgement" on a single link - yet. I have however pointed out your choice of words. Perhaps take the time to think or ask questions before making that assumption in the future, hmm?
 

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Laugh all you'd like, it doesn't change a single thing.

You had the reasons - all valid - for some to not bother with your videos laid out for you, you choose to ignore these reasons and fall back on calling people "tools" ...

I haven't "passed judgement" on a single link - yet. I have however pointed out your choice of words. Perhaps take the time to think or ask questions before making that assumption in the future, hmm?
Whatever. Again I post nothing that is demonstrably false, and I will retract when presented with evidence to the contrary. That doesn't go both ways here, and since I can't control that, I don't care. I posted links this time and it still won't satisfy you. So really, do whatever you like, laugh as much as you want but until you can put up something meaningful to engage me, I don't give a rat's ass about what you say.
 
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Oh for fuck sake ... Read what I said, read it again and again and again until it sinks in.

Your calling people who gave valid reasons for not watching your videos "tools" is what my raction and response concerned this time - nothing more and nothing less.

I'm not here to "engage" you - that's rather pointless based on your stated opinions and refusal to see what was laid out for you in plain English. I'm doing nothing more than pointing out how you're coming across. Do with that information what you will - you've ignored similar attempts by others already and resorted to the above name calling to boot.

"Engaging" you is about as fruitful as using a cactus for a "personal toy" ...

ETA: Aww, seems I hit a nerve there. Maybe now you actually see what was being said. If not, well whatever - its obvious either way that you don't like being called out.
 
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Oh for fuck sake ... Read what I said, read it again and again and again until it sinks in.

Your calling people who gave valid reasons for not watching your videos "tools" is what my raction and response concerned this time - nothing more and nothing less.

I'm not here to "engage" you - that's rather pointless based on your stated opinions and refusal to see what was laid out for you in plain English. I'm doing nothing more than pointing out how you're coming across. Do with that information what you will - you've ignored similar attempts by others already and resorted to the above name calling to boot.

"Engaging" you is about as fruitful as using a cactus for a "personal toy" ...
I don't care if you don't watch. I know people won't always have time to watch. I will discuss thoughtfully on any subject where it's obvious that people have watched or read something and I won't comment on stuff I don't read/watch. Most people don't comment if they don't watch and that's fine. But I'm not going to do as I just did and link every underlying source to something I saw. I didn't need to do that to absorb the information. You can listen or not, but don't say I haven't put something out there for you to evaluate if/when you have the time.
 
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I don't care if you don't watch. I know people won't always have time to watch. I will discuss thoughtfully on any subject where it's obvious that people have watched or read something and I won't comment on stuff I don't read/watch. Most people don't comment if they don't watch and that's fine. But I'm not going to do as I just did and link every underlying source to something I saw. I didn't need to do that to absorb the information. You can listen or not, but don't say I haven't put something out there for you to evaluate if/when you have the time.
Let me be quite clear, since you missed it again: I. Have. Not. Said. Any. Such. Thing.

That's a second suspicion confirmed: You see what you want to see.

We're done here - Such people piss me off to an extreme.
 
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This thread is filled with comedy.

Your job is to find it.
 
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The CIA wouldn’t do open propaganda
I want to live in that USA.

In the meantime, if you're genuinely curious, I recommend researching "manufacturing consent for war", the Smith-Mundt act, and its repeal. You might also check the credentials of recent major media hires, the panel experts they have as frequent guests, and also the "CIA Democrats." Then maybe the founders and boards of the cyber security firms the DNC has used in recent years.

Who exactly is doing all this warmongering on the Democrats’ side? And do you think they are in cahoots with the Republicans?
If you think our politicians are in control of this thing, then we aren't even on the same page.
 
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NO U.

Why should it be on us to "JUS GOOGLE IT U NOOBS?" when you're the one making the assertations?
This is why nobody is going to spend a lot of time looking shit up for you. Nothing at all is going to move you beyond "alt-right talking points...ha! Gotcha!".
 
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I’m going to ignore this thread for a while, there’s so much wrong it makes my head spin.
In a politics thread it's going to happen sometimes. I just skip over the annoying bits to get to the high content providors, even if they are being driven out of the thread by one or two others.
 
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