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here in germany there are a number of press articles dealing with the significance of the Biden election for Britain. With the possible relationship between the usa and the UK, the USA and the EU.
Apart from the important aspects of Biden's support for the EU project, his Irish origins make him very concerned about the Good Friday Treaty.

Johnson will not have an easy time standing with a Democratic-dominated government...
Tommy Vietor is quoted here as a representative of others. Vietor was foreign policy spokesman for the Obama/Biden administration

Vietor reacting on Johnson's congratulations message to Biden

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This shapeshifting creep weighs in. We will never forget your racist comments about Obama and slavish devotion to Trump but neat Instagram graphic.
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@BorisJohnson
· 7. Nov.
Congratulations @JoeBiden and @KamalaHarris



"Since the weekend at the latest, many in London have been asking themselves whether Johnson's well-practiced practice of revising viewpoints and convictions at will can be enough to successfully charm Joe Biden as well. So whether the ritually invoked "special relationship" with the United States will remain as special as it has been for the past four years."
writes Der Spiegel


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And it's not just about the Johnson person. Michael Gove, who is responsible in the British cabinet for the implementation of the Brexit, is also notorious in Biden's team as a right-winger and republican friend. In Washington, it was also not overheard that Johnson's foreign minister Dominic Raab derided the kneeling protest of the "Black Lives Matter" movement as "submission and subordination". For Biden, who has declared the fight against systemic racism to be a priority, these are no trifles.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) from Der Spiegel
 
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It is a mixed bag for the UK. Biden will be more concerned with the international implications of Brexit, including Good Friday, NATO, WTO, and continuation of legal commitments. He will be less interested in forcing the UK to lower standards to get a trade deal.
 
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It is a mixed bag for the UK. Biden will be more concerned with the international implications of Brexit, including Good Friday, NATO, WTO, and continuation of legal commitments. He will be less interested in forcing the UK to lower standards to get a trade deal.
I think we'd given up on a trade deal with Trump -- the government had belatedly realised how toxic to British public opinion any US trade deal negotiated with Trump would be, and taken the NHS, hormone-enhanced beef, and chlorinated chicken (really, most US meat, because of animal welfare concerns) off the table, so there wasn't much chance of a deal anyway.
 

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I think we'd given up on a trade deal with Trump -- the government had belatedly realised how toxic to British public opinion any US trade deal negotiated with Trump would be, and taken the NHS, hormone-enhanced beef, and chlorinated chicken (really, most US meat, because of animal welfare concerns) off the table, so there wasn't much chance of a deal anyway.
but this means that Uk urgently needs a trade agreement with the EU.
cause there will not be so soon a trade-treaty UK-USA
the question is whether Johnson and his government can still turn around so quickly and get it across to his voters.
But the British public may have become accustomed to such extreme swings
 

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The Internal Market Bill is the one that breaks international law.

The Lords have thrown out the clause authorising the government to break the law, as we knew they would, so it's now up to the government what they do next.

If the Lords are determined, as they are in this case, they can block the legislation for a year, which makes it a dead letter.

Johnson knows he can't get the bill through the Lords, so it's a matter of how much more time he wants to waste on theatrics, aimed at convincing his Brexit fanatics that he's doing all he can, before being forced by the unelected Lords to ignore the Will of the People and agree to whatever the EU is prepared to give him, as we knew all along he would.

Unless he manages to screw up, in which case we've got a very messy no deal... we''ll know soon enough.
 
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The Internal Market Bill is the one that breaks international law.
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If the Lords are determined, as they are in this case, they can block the legislation for a year, which makes it a dead letter.
I thought he was trying to get round that by claiming it was some kind of 'finance bill', that the Lord's couldn't delay ?
 

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I thought he was trying to get round that by claiming it was some kind of 'finance bill', that the Lord's couldn't delay ?
I'd not heard that. According to UK In A Changing Europe, who are a pretty authoritative source on this kind of thing, they can

The Internal Market Bill will not, and cannot, die a death in the Lords (though the chamber could, and perhaps even might, delay the bill for a year under the Parliament Acts – something that has not happened since 2004).
They don't discuss finance bills (e.g. the budget) at all, and there are arcane procedures I don't understand for what are called "hybrid bills" but if those applied, I don't see why they'd be voting on the particular clauses that were considered "financial".
 

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I'd not heard that. According to UK In A Changing Europe, who are a pretty authoritative source on this kind of thing, they can
My mistake, I was thinking of the fact the Lords can't block Manifesto promises, see We WON'T back down! Legal loophole means House of Lords CAN block Brexit bill, says Adonis *. I do, however, recall some talk earlier in the year of blocking the Lord's objection by including an unrelated 'finance' clause in the bill, but that obviously never came to fruition.

* (sorry to quote the Express, I'd rather have used a proper newspaper, but that's all I could find right now)
 
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Yes, Minister.
We've had months of Michael Gove and Lynn Truss and the like scurrying round announcing joyfully that they've signed trade deals with half the world, all of which are the existing terms with a few minor points of contention removed, so no change there, while the one deal that matters is the one that's in danger of turning into a very messy no deal.
 
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We've had months of Michael Gove and Lynn Truss and the like scurrying round announcing joyfully that they've signed trade deals with half the world, all of which are the existing terms with a few minor points of contention removed, so no change there, while the one deal that matters is the one that's in danger of turning into a very messy no deal.
I do extend my sympathies. In the frozen colony here, we've been having a rough go with our own major trade partner. I'd be inclined to say 'Let's reunited the Empire', but with our stolen French side, the Napoleonic side is looking pretty good too.
 
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