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Bartholomew Gallacher

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And one of the many infuriating things about the UK today is that the rapporteur's report on extreme poverty, which should be the lead news story and foremost in the minds of both government and opposition, is going to be completely overshadowed by ersatz drama from the extreme Brexiteers.
Well, the UN poverty envoy could without doubt for sure say the same about Germany.

The thing is: if you got increasing poverty in your country and you don't have the hope of it getting any better soon, those people tend to feel a) neglected by their own government, b) get disullisioned and angry, so c) are most surely voting for more extreme positions.

This is why the right is so much on the rise in today's Europe again; this is why Trump succeeded.
 

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She's barking mad. I'm A Celebrity MP Nadine Dorries says she's 'similar' to Kim Kardashian

This is exactly what happened to John Major's government -- he was trying to get the Maastricht Treaty through Parliament, with a tiny majority (which he later lost) and it gave massive publicity and influence to both the NI Unionist Parties and to a core of completely batshit Conservative backbenchers who, most of the time, were deservedly obscure.

They're completely dissociated from reality.

ETA: Here's another one, Andrew Bridgen, being eviscerated by The Times (Evernote link because £wall)
 
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I really wonder where Simon Brodkin might show up in the following weeks, and in which way... I mean, he already handed May over the P45 form, so his next coup must be in the making.
 

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Does anyone mind if I vent briefly? It's not a reflection on anyone here, I must emphasise. Expletives will abound.

I am absolutely aghast at this fucking useless bunch of feckless leeches, whose timerity merely begins with accusing benefits claimants of profiting of the public purse, who continue to peddle their profiteering, accelerationist porn upon a country they know fucking well they've lied to for fucking decades.

And now? They have their wish! They can kill the British economy with a stroke! And many of them still wish to do so. But maybe a few fewer in the past few days? Perhaps the accelerationists are waning? Even the Daily Flail has a new, pro-Remain editor.

Rees-Mogg? Fuck him, fuck David Davis and his homuculus Steve Baker, fuck the ERG. They seek to wrench me away from Europe, away from any semblance of actual representation, for nothing more than their own purposes: power, pure and simple, aided by lies and illegal funding, but hey, what the hell does any of that matter? It's not like being a fucking fraud has any kind of consequences!

Fuck every last fucking Brexiteer. Time for the rusty chainsaws.
 

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ERG publishes its case against May's deal
In a document entitled: Your Right to Know,
the pro-Brexit European Research Group outlines its case against the draft withdrawal agreement "in plain English".

It says the deal would leave the UK "half in and half out" of the EU.

"This will mean that we will become a ‘vassal state’ many of whose laws will have been created abroad and over which we have no influence.

"This is completely against the spirit of the 2017 referendum in which 17.4 million UK citizens voted to leave the European Union."

[...]

ERG suggests Super Canada deal as alternative

The ERG document highlights five key issues it has with Mrs May's deal. It says the deal means:

·Not taking back control of our money

·Not taking back control of our laws

·Being locked in a Customs Union without the ability to leave

·Undermining the integrity of the UK

·The agreement would be overseen by the European Court of Justice, not the UK Supreme Court

It suggests a better alternative would be a Super Canada free trade deal, which would involve taking an existing EU Canada trade agreement signed in 2016 and updating this with additional elements such as a security protocol.

It explains that a Super Canada trade agreement would not involve being in the Single Market or Customs Union and would not leave the UK subject to the authority of the European Court of Justice.

And many more on the below link:

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-46200010

This ERG group for sure is really delusional; I mean they are still chasing unicorns and have no doubt about that they are able to catch them, while the EU has already made crystal clear that there are no such things. They are always demanding, demanding, demanding, but I am sure if they would have to negotiate, they would not do better than May did, on the contrary, even worse.

For example, just this lie:

"We would hand over £39 billion of taxpayer’s money with nothing guaranteed in return."

Wrong. What the UK did get in return for all the years of membership becomes more and more clearly day by day, when you just listen to the economy. The UK benefitted from it greatly. And of course if you leave something and you still got debt, you need to pay it. Also it is a transition period, so still having access to the single market is part of this price tag obviously.

Or this: "The Agreement creates internal borders within the UK."

Well, who again decided to leave the EU? And again a lie, because the final regulation has been delayed, so it is also part again of a transitional period.
 
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I just read that and don't understand why nobody over there has hit him in the face with a half-brick yet.
 
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I just read that and don't understand why nobody over there has hit him in the face with a half-brick yet.
He has a pretty long face. Would probably require a full brick to do the job right.
 
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Brexiteer tries to avoid conviction by calling police 'dummies'

Reminds me of a time when someone appealed to the Crown Court from a Magistrates' Court conviction for a parking offence (in England and Wales, that means the Crown Court rehears the case, with a panel comprising two magistrates and a Crown Court judge).

Anyway, the appellant was convinced he'd found authority in some Victorian statute for saying that the local council couldn't lawfully create parking restrictions (or something equally odd). It may not come as a surprise to learn that he was conducting his own appeal, without the benefit of professional advice. Anyway, he explained his case, at some length, to the court, while everyone tried to keep a straight face.

Eventually, he concluded his explanation, and the judge asked,

"So, you explained all this to the magistrates, did you?"
"Yes, your honour. I did."
"And what did they say?"
"They fell about laughing, your honour. They fell about laughing."
 

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So what is the over under on how many people will probably die when things happen like medicine shortages? :(