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Innula Zenovka

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Because it's in the bill, it's been there for months, he's explained this ad nauseum how many times. But hey, we need fresh outrage.
Thanks. It still puzzles me why it's there and not also on his campaign website and why he didn't say that to Anderson Cooper, but probably it makes sense to US voters.
 

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Is it too late for Warren already?
She just made some bad calculations. She's too close to Bernie for the people who voted Clinton in 2016, so they seem to be behind Klobouchar now. She can't take Bernie votes, because she doesn't support medicare for all, and she openly called Bernie a liar over some stupid he said / she said drama from years ago (and a few other things, like her Patriot Act support). She's kind of fallen down the cracks between Bernie and Klobouchar.

It's a shame, I used to love Warren. Back during Occupy Wall St, she was awesome. I loved her plans to fix bankruptcy laws, and things like that. Since then, she feels way too focus group managed. I never hear about her bankruptcy ideas, even though she is a world class expert in bankruptcy. I guess that was 12 years ago, though. Everybody changes.

I am looking forward to seeing her rip into Bloomberg again tonight.
 

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Thanks. It still puzzles me why it's there and not also on his campaign website and why he didn't say that to Anderson Cooper, but probably it makes sense to US voters.
Did anyone see the town hall? Apparently he slapped a document into the hands of the moderator. Probably the one that's been posted. According to the author of the Lancet study, the funding Sanders discussed would more than pay for M4A, so perhaps he also discussed what was on that paper. But I didn't see it.

Also curious is that author says government on local/state/federal level currently spends 2.3T annually. Not sure if anyone, including Sanders, has discussed whether M4A transfers that burden nationally. The shortfal of covering everyone from what we already spend, when considered on all levels of government, is apparently "only" $800B.

The couple minutes I'm able to devote to this ATM has probably misled me somewhere...
 

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... because she doesn't support medicare for all...
Huh? Yes, she does. She also supports a transition period, so I'm not sure if that's what you mean, but her end goal is to get us to Medicare For All..

Elizabeth supports Medicare for All, which would provide all Americans with a public health care program. Medicare for All is the best way to give every single person in this country a guarantee of high-quality health care. Everybody is covered. Nobody goes broke because of a medical bill. No more fighting with insurance companies.
Ending the Stranglehold of Health Care Costs on American Families | Elizabeth Warren

Bernie also appears to have a 4 year 'transition' plan.
 

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In addition, we should also add context to Cuba’s political situation, which is first and foremost widely misunderstood. As I grew up hearing about the downfalls of communism, socialism, and Castro, one thing that was clear to me is that people supported the reforms, even the ones who would later oppose Castro. What I came to understand was that the main issue in Cuba was the lack of democracy and political rights, not the social programs of healthcare and education, which did lift many out of extreme poverty and literacy at the beginning.

Yes, context is important, and it has to be understood that the Cuban Revolution was a popular uprising and social movement against Fulgencio Batista, a murderous right-wing dictator who was propped up by the U.S. and the elite class. Many people, including my great-grandmother, fought in that revolution to bring democracy, healthcare, education, and housing to the people.

As it’s been pointed out, although the programs made improvements, the authoritarian nature of the Castro government has been and should be condemned, juts like Bernie noted. We won’t forget those unjustly killed or imprisoned, but we must also not use their pain for political gain. When talking about Cuba, we have to make it clear that there is a nuanced distinction between the social issues and the political structure.

On the other hand, we can learn from the fact that a poor country like Cuba has the same life expectancy as the U.S. and even guarantees healthcare and education to everyone as a basic right. Let us ask ourselves one question: why can’t the U.S. (the wealthiest country in the entire world) do the same?

Are there major issues with Cuba? Yes, of course. However, we can’t forget the devastating effects of U.S. foreign policy and the consequences the embargo has had on the island politically and economically, not to mention the broader repercussions of U.S. intervention and pillaging in Latin America, which created political situations that forced our families to flee.

Cuba is the prime example of such failed policies.
 

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I like the idea of a coalition type leadership, but probably prospective leaders do not. It does make me nervous that whoever is the front runner du jour is so virulently despised by everyone but his/her supporters.
That’s not what I’m seeing.

I’m seeing a lot of support in the Northeast for both Bernie and Warren, including the recent endorsement for her from the Boston Globe. Most of her voters are more likely to go to Sanders than Bloomberg if they’re voting by issues.

The TV networks are profoundly anti-Bernie, but I don’t see this among regular people anywhere, unless they’re de facto Republicans.

If someone who isn’t completely illiterate can still vote Republican after the Trump circus, fuck ‘em.
 

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That’s not what I’m seeing.

I’m seeing a lot of support in the Northeast for both Bernie and Warren, including the recent endorsement for her from the Boston Globe. Most of her voters are more likely to go to Sanders than Bloomberg if they’re voting by issues.

The TV networks are profoundly anti-Bernie, but I don’t see this among regular people anywhere, unless they’re de facto Republicans.

If someone who isn’t completely illiterate can still vote Republican after the Trump circus, fuck ‘em.
I meant my Twitter feed, which first blew up with ppl saying they would never vote for Bloomberg, now blowing up with people saying they would never vote for Bernie.

Everyone was solidly united in removing Trump for about five minutes, then it all blew up.
 

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I meant my Twitter feed, which first blew up with ppl saying they would never vote for Bloomberg, now blowing up with people saying they would never vote for Bernie.

Everyone was solidly united in removing Trump for about five minutes, then it all blew up.
MSNBC and Hillary's people have done their job well.
 

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I meant my Twitter feed, which first blew up with ppl saying they would never vote for Bloomberg, now blowing up with people saying they would never vote for Bernie.

Everyone was solidly united in removing Trump for about five minutes, then it all blew up.
It’s privilege talking, or fear. It can’t possibly be anything else. It’s either people who don’t care about our de facto dictatorship of McConnell, or it’s people who have been propagandized into thinking we must appease the secretly right wing people.