Charlie Kirk Shot and Killed In Utah

[Cristiano]

 

[Free]

Oh hey, Erika Kirk was a Miss Arizona USA. Totally qualified for a position of this stature.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

Erika Kirk is the absolute Republican definition of a DEI hire.

 

[Noodles]

Erika Kirk is the absolute Republican definition of a DEI hire.

I son't thing "Stupid" is a protected class that falls under DEI initiatives.

 

[Cristiano]

This is an interesting watch
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[Innula Zenovka]

This is an interesting watch
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If I correctly understand his speculative reconstruction of events, it would appear that this secretive group of pro-Israel billionaires who were pulling Charlie Kirk's strings via his wife had an assassin ready on hand to murder Charlie within hours of Erika notifying the billionaires that the marriage was over.

The talk provides plenty of speculation but very little evidence one way or another for the actual state of the Kirks' marriage. I'd have said that the most he demonstrates is that the Kirks may possibly have had a serious row the night before Charlie Kirk's death, but that's as far as I'd be prepared to go based on what I'm told here.

Quite what role in all this Tyler James Robinson, the alleged assassin, is said to have played is unclear. Is he said to have been the actual shooter, or was his presence there coincidental, or what?

 

[Beebo Brink]

Conspiracy theorists are going to theorize. And eat their own.

 

[Cristiano]

If I correctly understand his speculative reconstruction of events, it would appear that this secretive group of pro-Israel billionaires who were pulling Charlie Kirk's strings via his wife had an assassin ready on hand to murder Charlie within hours of Erika notifying the billionaires that the marriage was over.

The talk provides plenty of speculation but very little evidence one way or another for the actual state of the Kirks' marriage. I'd have said that the most he demonstrates is that the Kirks may possibly have had a serious row the night before Charlie Kirk's death, but that's as far as I'd be prepared to go based on what I'm told here.

Quite what role in all this Tyler James Robinson, the alleged assassin, is said to have played is unclear. Is he said to have been the actual shooter, or was his presence there coincidental, or what?

Charlie had been saying for weeks that he was going to leave the Israel cause, that he could not support it anymore. I don't think the end of the marriage was the impetus for whatever happened. It is well documented that Charlie was being severely pressured by donors about supporting Israel and being threatened to get in line. I am no fan of his by any means, but Erika is definitely a power hungry monster that is involved in this up to her creepy dead eyes and beauty queen bleach job.

Do I know exactly what happened? No. However, Joe Kent confirmed they were ordered to stop investigating foreign ties to the murder of Charlie Kirk. The official story of what happened makes zero sense.

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www.independent.co.uk

 

[Cristiano]

A TP USA chapter in Alabama disbanded in protest of how terribly Erika Kirk is running TPUSA and steering it from its original mission.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Charlie had been saying for weeks that he was going to leave the Israel cause, that he could not support it anymore. I don't think the end of the marriage was the impetus for whatever happened. It is well documented that Charlie was being severely pressured by donors about supporting Israel and being threatened to get in line. I am no fan of his by any means, but Erika is definitely a power hungry monster that is involved in this up to her creepy dead eyes and beauty queen bleach job.

Do I know exactly what happened? No. However, Joe Kent confirmed they were ordered to stop investigating foreign ties to the murder of Charlie Kirk. The official story of what happened makes zero sense.

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www.independent.co.uk

The Independent article you reference tells us

According to Kent, the FBI wanted to “turn everything over to the Utah state authorities.”

Since the Utah state authorities are prosecuting the case on the basis that Tyler Robinson committed the murder, isn't that what you'd expect them to do? I don't see how he could get a fair trial otherwise, since discovery wouldn't work if the FBI were sitting on some of the evidence or were conducting their own parallel investigation while the case was proceeding in the state court.

Assuming that by "the official story of what happened" you mean the prosecution case against Tyler Robinson, isn't it for the jury to decide whether or not it makes sense, based on the evidence presented in court?

 

[Soen Eber]

Needs a grassy knoll and a dwarf. I say dwarf because that's what's on my card.

Can I use Massad in place of "Intangible Israeli involvement"? Come on guys, there's 50 bucks on the line! *stubs out a cigarette, muttering "grassy knoll and dwarf, grassy know OR dwarf?* Gerdangit, why Iran? Putin gave him an engraved invitation for "land war in Asia." How the hell am I supposed to get my money back. He has the FACE for land war in Asia. But Nooo, he has to go for maximum collateral damage. He has PEOPLE who do the thinking for him ... I was better off with Biden.' Maybe Putin stiffed the printer and didn't get the engraving. Or maybe the guy in charge of mail gave it a sniff and didn't alert on the money, Putin always was cheap with the money. Maybe the mailroom guy only alerts on cocaine. I hate my life. I can't even make money off of high glass idiot grifters, it should be easy. Grassy knoll or dwarf, blarrggh.

 

[Cristiano]

The Independent article you reference tells us

Since the Utah state authorities are prosecuting the case on the basis that Tyler Robinson committed the murder, isn't that what you'd expect them to do? I don't see how he could get a fair trial otherwise, since discovery wouldn't work if the FBI were sitting on some of the evidence or were conducting their own parallel investigation while the case was proceeding in the state court.

Assuming that by "the official story of what happened" you mean the prosecution case against Tyler Robinson, isn't it for the jury to decide whether or not it makes sense, based on the evidence presented in court?

No, it doesn't mean that. It means they were stopped from pursuing any other avenues for the murder. A narrative was decided on, which the FBI screwed up multiple times, and many aspects of the case have been debunked. Anyway, time will tell, but that murder was a professional hit, not a dork with a trans partner.

BTW, this aspect of the TikTok video is public record:

 

[Innula Zenovka]

No, it doesn't mean that. It means they were stopped from pursuing any other avenues for the murder. A narrative was decided on, which the FBI screwed up multiple times, and many aspects of the case have been debunked. Anyway, time will tell, but that murder was a professional hit, not a dork with a trans partner.

BTW, this aspect of the TikTok video is public record:

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An alternative explanation would be that domain squatters buy up domain names for potential presidential and vice presidential candidates as they can think of, in the hope of selling one of them to the campaign of the eventual Presidential and Vice Presidential ticket.

What conclusions should we draw from this registration, which is also a matter of public record?

 

[Cristiano]

An alternative explanation would be that domain squatters buy up domain names for potential presidential and vice presidential candidates as they can think of, in the hope of selling one of them to the campaign of the eventual Presidential and Vice Presidential ticket.

What conclusions should we draw from this registration, which is also a matter of public record?

By itself, it means nothing. It just adds additional data to all that has happened. It was registered 3 days after Charlie's murder, so it is certainly curious. If you follow, there is enough fucking smoke around Erika Kirk to set Arizona ablaze.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

By itself, it means nothing. It just adds additional data to all that has happened. It was registered 3 days after Charlie's murder, so it is certainly curious. If you follow, there is enough fucking smoke around Erika Kirk to set Arizona ablaze.

It doesn't add any sort of data at all.

Someone registered a VanceKirk2028 domain on September 13 2025.

Someone also registered CarlsonVance on January 26 of this year. Does that suggest to you that the anti-Israel Tucker Carlson is likely to run for president with J D Vance reprising his supporting role (always the bridesmaid ...), Vance (or Peter Thiel?) presumably having had a falling out with Erika Kirk and/or her hypothetical billionaire backers? But Peter Thiel is a strong supporter of Israel, so that wouldn't, on the face of it, make much sense.

If it doesn't suggest to you anything of the sort, why assume the former has any particular significance either, other than that a domain squatter thought it was worth punting a few dollars on the possibility the name will be worth something in a year or so's time?

 

[Cristiano]

Not long after that occurred, they started promoting Vance with Erika Kirk. You had the moment of the grieving widow on stage in tight leather pants with Vance’s hands on her hips and Erika running her fingers through his hair and whispering to him with Usha Vance in the audience. It was one of the first wtf moments that showed the black widow in black leather was hardly the grieving widow. I get it, you don’t think this all adds up to anything, but I do think Erika was involved in his death somehow.

 

[Soen Eber]

Not long after that occurred, they started promoting Vance with Erika Kirk. You had the moment of the grieving widow on stage in tight leather pants with Vance’s hands on her hips and Erika running her fingers through his hair and whispering to him with Usha Vance in the audience. It was one of the first wtf moments that showed the black widow in black leather was hardly the grieving widow. I get it, you don’t think this all adds up to anything, but I do think Erika was involved in his death somehow.

I have to admit that I have been intentionally ignoring everything concerning this, because as far as I'm concerned it's all soap opera. But I am going to spin out an old phrase: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately accounted for by sheer opportunism. Kirk was her money train. She's riding it as far as she can, just like every other sleezy Republican. There's manipulation, obviously, but to reach for murder is a bit of a hard sell.

If I'm wrong, tell me to shut up and speak to me like a child, with simple words - I've no interest and I'm lazy over this, but I don't wish to be wrong, just blatantly & cheerfully ignorant.

 

[Cristiano]

I have to admit that I have been intentionally ignoring everything concerning this, because as far as I'm concerned it's all soap opera. But I am going to spin out an old phrase: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately accounted for by sheer opportunism. Kirk was her money train. She's riding it as far as she can, just like every other sleezy Republican. There's manipulation, obviously, but to reach for murder is a bit of a hard sell.

If I'm wrong, tell me to shut up and speak to me like a child, with simple words - I've no interest and I'm lazy over this, but I don't wish to be wrong, just blatantly & cheerfully ignorant.

Do I think Erika had him killed? No, but I do think she is still involved. She is an opportunistic psychopath, as eloquently outlined by someone in one of my previous posts. Why I think this goes beyond simple drama is that I believe that bigger geopolitical forces were at play. There is quite a rabbit hole to go down regarding Erika Kirk and her past and family connections in the government, both foreign and domestic. I do think Charlie was killed for a specific reason that has nothing to do with not liking trans people. Yes, it is all very Game of Thrones. Charlie was a first class piece of shit, but he didn't deserve to die. He was silenced for a reason. What that reason was ultimately remains to be completely seen, but many roads lead to the same conclusion.

 

[Free]

If I'm wrong, tell me to shut up and speak to me like a child

 

[Innula Zenovka]

It will be interesting to see if "It wasn't me -- Charlie Kirk was killed by an assassin working on behalf of some sinister group of billionaires, I'm just the fall guy and Erika Kirk is somehow involved" forms part of Tyler Robinson's defence. Perhaps he'll even call her as a witness.