The 2024 U.S. Presidential race

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i can only guess, but since almost ALL opinions expressed here are from the left, this probably means that all people from the right (so 50% of the population) either doesn't respond here or has left, and they won't come back.

SL itself is kind of a massive bastion of creative progressive people. That doesn't mean there aren't conservatives in SL.

Current condition nswrvativism is already in its death throws in the world at large, it's not even "50%" interest, maybe 30% of the population.

Couple that with an already progressive space like SL, you are going to see a pretty small amount of Conservatives in that niche in general.

On top of that, VVO is not in the SL business. Cris isn't part of LL and hasn't got a stake in the larger picture of "selling SL". He is just a user like everyone else. Hell, part of the VVO branding was to move away a bit from SL as "the Metaverse" was becoming more popular. Be more about Virtual Worlds and not JUST SL like SLU was.

Except "the Metaverse" is already dead, because it was being pushed by a bunch of conservative libertarian tech bro types who didn't understand the market or product at all (surprise!) and were just trying to chase the next but money making scam.

But SL lives on, because LL understands it's audience and market because it's been around for 20+ years.

As for the forum and SL, SL is great, it's just not, super fast moving or super interesting as a sole topic. Plus, that discussion can be done, in SL. And we do discuss SL, there has been discussion on PBR etc.

As for games "banning politics", most of that is spurred on because half the time the discussion is some random troll coming in with a username like "GasPoweredKites88" who thinks their shitty troll opinions should b screamed as loud as they can and who thinks they are subtle just "discussing the topics" with their subtle jabs and username that are obviously intended to be secretly inflammatory.

Maybe the official forums is more your speed, with its people screaming about how every attempt by LL to make the platform better is awful because they insist on running SL on the same PC they used when they first signed up in 2004.
 

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If people of the right would have a big population here, people of the left would be mostly missing. These points of views rarely coexist for long in forums.
I agree, if people from the right were in majority here, the people from the left would have left the forum. Anyway that means 50% of the people left here.

I know political forums on discord, they LOVE to argue and fight too, but there it's 50-50%, otherwise it's not funny if no one from the other side responds.
 

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I know political forums on discord, they LOVE to argue and fight too, but there it's 50-50%, otherwise it's not funny if no one from the other side responds.
You are free to post your political views and have a discussion or debate, but if you start pushing conspiracy theories laced with hate you will probably get told you are an idiot, so, just be aware.
 

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Not every online activity must revolve around money, nor much such activity constantly strive to reach as many eyeballs as possible in order to service the acquisition of either money or influence. You seem confused by this.
 
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well i can make a prediction for the future : sure traffic on this forum will peak til end 2024, but then 2025 you will all be surprised that it's TOTALLY QUIET on this forum, because elections will be over, but interesting people chatting about 3D worlds will have left. That's how you kill a forum.
Wow, you're about 10 years too late to this discussion. VV (or SLU as some of us call it) has survived for years with Cristiano's formula. A lot of those who left got off on the wrong foot by making their FIRST POST about how shitty this board is and how we're all doomed to failure. That's been predicted. Repeatedly.

It never happened.

Please take a page from the rest of the board - you can express any opinion you want here, but Cris as the board owner has final discretion, like it or not. He owns the board and pays the rent (with a little help from some of us). There's nothing you can predict about the board that hasn't already been predicted and proven false. If you insult or belittle other posters, Cris will have the final say regardless of your opinions.

"Come into a new board where nobody knows me and first I'm going to tell everybody there how WRONG they are!" What a great strategy to get to know anyone and engage in a back and forth with intellectual honesty.

I'd welcome you to the board, but first a question: "What do you expect will happen now that you've established yourself as 'just another' complaining newbie?"
 

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well i can make a prediction for the future : sure traffic on this forum will peak til end 2024, but then 2025 you will all be surprised that it's TOTALLY QUIET on this forum, because elections will be over, but interesting people chatting about 3D worlds will have left. That's how you kill a forum.
Gee, I missed our huge flameouts in '16 and '20. Everybody who was going to leave has already left. But there seems to be a large contingent of us who actually like this format and this board owner.

Hey I think this is "Take a Hike" day!

 

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you forgot the beginning of my first post :

"i just noticed something interesting on this forum. There are 240,960 messages in total, and 115,000 of them are in the topic "Politics, Religion and Society", almost half. "

So is this still a forum about 3D worlds ? i'm not so sure. Maybe time to rebrand it.
 
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Cindy Claveau

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you forgot the beginning of my first post :
Or maybe we're not interested in your line of discussion. Maybe we've heard it a million times in the 10-15 years it's existed and thrived. By now it's absolutely boring as shit.

Stickied at the top of the board: "Abandon all hope ye who enter here".

There's one more point I'm going to make here. I am sick to fucking death of the whole "both sides" bullshit. One side is foisting on us an ignorant, doddering old fucker with cognitive decay.

The other side is promising an end to the lies and negative "America sucks" bullshit. There IS no "other side" to politics in 2024. There is the Constitution and there is fascism. That's not a political slogan - only one side wants to control women's bodies and make it harder to vote. The other side doesn't.

it's not a question of who's who. It's a question of "where do you stand?"

Note: I don't really care where you stand. So far you've established yourself as a weak version of the Greatest Trolls in VV history.

Booooring.

You're in the Politics and Religion section. If you don't like it, you can block the section and carry on in the many others that do deal with virtual worlds and SL.
 
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Cindy Claveau

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Look i'm a newbie, i arrive here and think with this title it's a forum about 3D worlds.
But now i can say i'm wrong, virtualverse is definitively mostly a political forum.
I can only fit less than half the boards on this site into one screenshot. Only ONE is about politics.


 

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yes but look at the number of messages. The political topic dwarfs all other by far.
Ignore button top right will remove the subforum from your view.



so tell your leader to rebrand the forum. Anyway i'm out of here, i'll look elsewhere for people interested in 3D worlds.
you can continue your war here, sorry for the interruption (y)
Ohh, a parting shot. Flounce 1-niner.
 

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yes but look at the number of messages. The political topic dwarfs all other by far.
Like I said earlier, Cris created the Politics section years ago because Politics was infesting everything, including the SL-specific sections.

When he did that, some of which was due to posters' requests, the tenor and atmosphere of the SL sections lightened up markedly. So, yes, Politics and Religion is a MAJOR area of interest for SLU/VV users. To Cris' credit, he gave us a place where we can talk openly about things without annoying the non-political members among us.

You're waaaaaaaaaay late on your observation. In fact, nothing you've posted yet has been original in any way. You're still free to express it (as you have), but that does not come with a guarantee that anyone else will give a flying goddam.

EDIT: Buh-bye.