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I'll repost it, for those that're worried about having to dual-boot/having compatibility issues doing so: Keep an eye on ReactOS - the project looking to fix some of the biggest issues there were with Windows over the last few decades.
 

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But surely we've learned from Windows 8 that your computer is just a really big phone tablet! 🤪
Fixed!

Remember: in the early 2010s, iPad was the future of computing.
 

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"The taskbar now has open app icons in the middle instead of being left aligned." As someone who collects tray icons, this could be . . . ungood. What happens when they overlap? I really hope They leave in the option to revert to the old left-aligned.
LOL.


And then they did in the registry hack to get around it.

 

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Apparently the Microsoft's plan involves dragging me kicking and screaming in the direction of trying to get my games to work in Wine.

It's the 21st century, surely a more user-configurable UI is in order, not "YOU WILL LOVE THIS BECAUSE IT'S ALL YOU'RE GETTING. SURELY YOU WILL BUY A NEW COMPUTER TO CONTAIN ALL THE AWESOME."
 

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I'll repost it, for those that're worried about having to dual-boot/having compatibility issues doing so: Keep an eye on ReactOS - the project looking to fix some of the biggest issues there were with Windows over the last few decades.
The problem with ReactOS is its development speed, which moves around the same speed erosion works. 23 years in development, and still no version 1 or at least beta vesion.

ReactOS will solve nothing, because when it does, we will have arrived at Windows 16 or something like that.
 

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LOL.


And then they did in the registry hack to get around it.

I collect taskbar icons like crazy, but I might be able to adjust to this. I will hate it, and move the start button back to where god intended as soon as I can, but my Chrome OS has centered taskbar buttons, and it isnt horrible. App access in Chrome OS, without the taskbar, is an absolute nightmare, in general, because when you swipe up to see all your apps they are in randomized order, no rhyme or reason. I have one full page, one page with like two apps, one page thats half full, rhem the ladt page has like 6 apps, and they all play musical chairs when you add/remove apps. You can't organize them, either. Its very amateur, liie they let some crypto nerd tinker with the app presentation, to generate maximum entropy. So with that as an alternative, I grew to like the centered chrome taskbar. My lemovo duet is more like a tablet than a laptop, though.
 

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I could maybe cope with the centered, but apparently start menu items are no longer resizable. And no grouping o_O

It's like they took the "apps" tab from search and turned that into an Android-style start menu.

Eh. It'll either be a refurb computer of some kind and using W11 with ClassicShell or just making games work in Linux sometime in the future.

Unless they pull a W8 and there'll be a Windows 11.1 with vaguely less suck. :p
 

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I could maybe cope with the centered, but apparently start menu items are no longer resizable. And no grouping o_O

It's like they took the "apps" tab from search and turned that into an Android-style start menu.

Eh. It'll either be a refurb computer of some kind and using W11 with ClassicShell or just making games work in Linux sometime in the future.

Unless they pull a W8 and there'll be a Windows 11.1 with vaguely less suck. :p
Yeah, I managed to completely skip windows 8 and 8.1 and go straight from 7 to 10. The only other distro I did that with was ME. Nothing good has ever come from MS trying to do mobile. From what I'm hearing, I'm gonna have to skip 11, as well, which shouldn't be that hard. My hardware is only a year and a half old. If they want to force the issue, with forced updates, it's less of a hassle for me to use linux than 11. I wish qubes linux had full hardware pass through. The crazy paranoid people running the distro call full passthrough a security risk, but full hardware passthrough would make it a no-brainer for the average user to switch to linux full time, and just run windows in a VM.
 
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The problem with ReactOS is its development speed, which moves around the same speed erosion works. 23 years in development, and still no version 1 or at least beta vesion.

ReactOS will solve nothing, because when it does, we will have arrived at Windows 16 or something like that.
Considering how much they have to unfuck from Microsoft? Not surprised at how long it's been in development. Fuck sake, they found that quite a few of the exploits they'd fixed while rewriting Explorer.exe were in the fucking print spooler as well.

I'll take the slower development cycle, thanks.
 
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My problem is that it has to be on the bottom.

Recently I started using my taskbar on the left side, the way some Linux GUIs are, and I kind of prefer it.

Now Windows 11 wants me to force it back to the bottom and center it.
 

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My problem is that it has to be on the bottom.

Recently I started using my taskbar on the left side, the way some Linux GUIs are, and I kind of prefer it.

Now Windows 11 wants me to force it back to the bottom and center it.
Sometimes I still miss the extra toolbars from XP. Though now they might be a bit odd since I'm running several monitors.

It feels like every new version of windows has been a step backwards.
 

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The easily understood hierarchical program menu under the Start button is one of the few clear user interface advantages Windows had over competing systems. I can not conceive of the confusion in the mind that would lead them to eliminate it.
 
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The easily understood hierarchical program menu under the Start button is one of the few clear user interface advantages Windows had over competing systems. I can not conceive of the confusion in the mind that would lead them to eliminate it.
it's another go-round of "everything is a touchscreen" is my take.
 
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The easily understood hierarchical program menu under the Start button is one of the few clear user interface advantages Windows had over competing systems. I can not conceive of the confusion in the mind that would lead them to eliminate it.
Maybe social media buzz? Moving the start button has generated the most internet traffic about Windows 11 so far. Most people don't care about the other features, we just want our start button where it belongs. If it really is all about buzz, then they will announce they are putting the start button back where it belongs the week before launch, to get another round of hype. That's all assuming their designers aren't completely insane, and that they care about hype. I don't think they have seriously hyped anything since Windows 95.
 

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Linus just posted a video about all the hoops MS expects us to jump through if we want Windows 11. Requiring TPM seems like the biggest sticking point. My motherboard does have TPM, but it's not enabled.

On the bright side, there's no way they can force migrate me to Windows 11 if I leave TPM disabled on my Windows 10 system! That means they can fix the start button or fuck off, because I'm not turning TPM just to lose my start button. I mean, TPM is nice for security, and I keep regular backups, so I'm not too worried about losing stuff to a future BIOS update or anything. I just don't want to lose my start button, so I'll continue to do without TPM, until Microsoft comes to their senses.

 
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