The Trump Presidency, Season 2

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To be fair, if they were trying to enter with the wrong visas (e.g. tourist visas when they intending to perform at gigs) that would probably get them denied entry in most places.
I have no quibble with people being denied entry for valid reasons, and although far from ideal, the circumstances of this woman's experience falls a little short of what I would call an "ordeal".

I do tend to object to them being manacled and thrown into detention centers with substandard conditions for weeks or disappeared to a prison in another country. It's that seemingly random possibility of draconian response that is so frightening. Not everyone will get it, but no one should.
 

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I have no quibble with people being denied entry for valid reasons, and although far from ideal, the circumstances of this woman's experience falls a little short of what I would call an "ordeal".

I do tend to object to them being manacled and thrown into detention centers with substandard conditions for weeks or disappeared to a prison in another country. It's that seemingly random possibility of draconian response that is so frightening. Not everyone will get it, but no one should.
I'm so glad we're in Canada, and under no circumstances are we going to set foot in US territory while this is a possibility. The risk is just too much.
 
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I have no quibble with people being denied entry for valid reasons, and although far from ideal, the circumstances of this woman's experience falls a little short of what I would call an "ordeal".

I do tend to object to them being manacled and thrown into detention centers with substandard conditions for weeks or disappeared to a prison in another country. It's that seemingly random possibility of draconian response that is so frightening. Not everyone will get it, but no one should.
You are, I think, referring to the case of Becky Burke, the British woman detained for 19 days over a visa issue before being deported home. I agree she was treated shamefully. My only point was that the musicians' experience, though very unpleasant, was nothing like that and sounds more like the result of their own carelessness in relying on the visa waiver scheme rather than on applying for the correct visa for performers on a short tour.

There's been plenty of publicity in the UK since Brexit of precisely this problem and how it affects British musicians hoping to play in Europe and vice versa, so they have very little excuse for not realising it might be an issue in the US too, since even before Trump US immigration and border security were well known to be pretty unpleasant.

A generation ago, even before the War on Terror, I had considerable first-hand experience of both US immigration and border control and their equivalents in the USSR. I always found the Soviet border police (a quasi-military formation, under KGB supervision) and the KGB a lot easier to deal with, and a lot more relaxed and humane, than their US counterparts.
 
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I have no quibble with people being denied entry for valid reasons, and although far from ideal, the circumstances of this woman's experience falls a little short of what I would call an "ordeal".

I do tend to object to them being manacled and thrown into detention centers with substandard conditions for weeks or disappeared to a prison in another country. It's that seemingly random possibility of draconian response that is so frightening. Not everyone will get it, but no one should.
Right.... a clerical error shouldn't be treated like they are a drug cartel member. Punishments should show proportionality.

I'm so glad we're in Canada, and under no circumstances are we going to set foot in US territory while this is a possibility. The risk is just too much.
It makes me so sad that this is a common, and rational sentiment. Why would anyone want to come here? What do we have that's worth risking weeks of detention for no reason?
 

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I never watched Babylon 5 but know I need to.... I hear nothing but good things about it. And maybe that's kind of the key to a more believable alien race, having internal divisions. Humans have many cultures. A HUGE race of billions of aliens should also have many cultures, even if none of them are like human cultures. Though it's also believable if a fascist regime in one such race eliminates all the others...

I also really liked Farscape. I think they did this well. They had a few aliens who were very complex, but also not just like humans.
I'm rewatching the series on TubiTV, a free streaming service with advertising that comes in 2 or 3 minute blocks maybe 3 or 4 times an hour (making it easy to hop to something else). Season one is a bit uneven due to early installment weirdness (as TVTropes calls it), but you don't lose anything by starting with season two, which packs in a lot of great episodes sufficient for binge watching. Registration is pretty simple and non-invasive, I think just an email address is required.
 
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Lies. There is a lot of important groundwork in Season One.
But there are also uneven spots, where it's still possible to say "Meh, I'll get to it later." Season two hits the ground running, and even the breather episodes carry the plot, character development, and the tension forward up until ep 18 "Confessions and Lamentations" which is pretty much a dressed-up AIDS episode, Even after that things build rapidly and remain high-strung and watchable. You have no choice but to binge watch, it draws you in just that much.

Come back to Season 1 once you're sold for the background and build-up. TKO is where Straczinsky hits his stride and never goes back, until season 5 where a loss of show notes and flip-floppery over the show's continuation set a gloom over it. The main arc is settled by the end of season 4 because of all that foofery and he had to stretch the planned epilogue over the entire season instead of the planned half-dozen/dozen or so episodes.
 

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Donald Trump’s administration will revoke the temporary legal status of 530,000 Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans in the United States, according to a Federal Register notice on Friday, in the latest expansion of his crackdown on immigration.

It will be effective on 24 April.
Trump said on 6 March that he would decide “very soon” whether to strip the parole status from some 240,000 Ukrainians who fled to the US during the conflict with Russia. Trump’s remarks came in response to a Reuters report that said his administration planned to revoke the status for Ukrainians as soon as April.
 

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Is this going to affect Cristiano? I do not remember how to flag him.
 

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Okay but who the heck is flying from Houston to Austin? That's like a two hour drive isn't it?