The Trump Presidency, Season 2

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Coming next: American nuclear weapons tests. Also Trump is again delusional, because Russia has more nuclear arms.

The United States has more Nuclear Weapons than any other country. This was accomplished, including a complete update and renovation of existing weapons, during my First Term in office. Because of the tremendous destructive power, I HATED to do it, but had no choice! Russia is second, and China is a distant third, but will be even within 5 years. Because of other countries testing programs, I have instructed the Department of War to start testing our Nuclear Weapons on an equal basis. That process will begin immediately. Thank you for your attention to this matter! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that that fucking terrorist Stephen Miller is already suggesting convenient locations to 'test' nukes, where they would be upwind from blue city citizens.
 

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I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that that fucking terrorist Stephen Miller is already suggesting convenient locations to 'test' nukes, where they would be upwind from blue city citizens.
On the plus side, maybe "The Daily Wire" will produce a remake of "The Conqueror".
 
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Coming next: American nuclear weapons tests. Also Trump is again delusional, because Russia has more nuclear arms.

The United States has more Nuclear Weapons than any other country. This was accomplished, including a complete update and renovation of existing weapons, during my First Term in office. Because of the tremendous destructive power, I HATED to do it, but had no choice! Russia is second, and China is a distant third, but will be even within 5 years. Because of other countries testing programs, I have instructed the Department of War to start testing our Nuclear Weapons on an equal basis. That process will begin immediately. Thank you for your attention to this matter! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

Basically, he's made it his mission to undo any kind of progress. This seems to appeal to supporters who are convinced we've been degenerating since the 1950's.
 

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Basically, he's made it his mission to undo any kind of progress. This seems to appeal to supporters who are convinced we've been degenerating since the 1950's.
We actually have been degenerating economically. Inflation has steadily increased since the 1950's but has been offset by a growing economy propped up by continuous population growth supported by immigration. The current administration has, in less than a year, removed immigration from the equation and initiated the process of stagnating economic growth. Our declining population, coupled with our massive concentration of wealth, will result in uncontrol able inflation. Cities will die while rural communities survive. That is assuming there are survivors.
 

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Cities will die while rural communities survive. That is assuming there are survivors.
Not sure I agree with this last statement. Rural economies have been dying slowly and sometimes rapidly for a long time in the USA. The stated purpose of the trade war is to make US industry come back, but we know it won't work.... I think many rural communities will die faster than cities.
 

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I believe we'll see a (reverse) migration of city dwellers to rural communities as urban area become unsustainable in the collapsing economy.
 
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Cities will die while rural communities survive.
Based on what rationale? I live in a rural red state and I'm having trouble envisioning how they would do better than cities under runaway inflation or any other stress. There are so few resources for people, especially as the GOP works to restrict criteria for federal aid. The sparse population (trending old) and distances between people means there's no way to concentrate services to reach enough of the population to be cost effective. For instance, more and more hospitals are closing down, which means doctors and many nurses and med tech employees simply leave the areas. Local businesses lose revenue, and there is yet another financial contraction. Rinse and repeat for every other business that closes.

Loss of immigrants is less of an issue in my state, but for many others, the departure of immigrants (forced or voluntary) means lost taxes for the city, loss of revenue for groceries and other stores. Large cities can handle that loss better than small towns.

By what metric are rural communities buffered from stresses that would kill cities? I would think it's the exact opposite: rural communities will continue to trend older and older as young adults leave for the bigger cities, where there are still opportunities of some kind.

I believe we'll see a (reverse) migration of city dwellers to rural communities as urban area become unsustainable in the collapsing economy.
Yeah, I can't see that happening. There is nothing in rural communities to draw people back. There's nothing to do here.
 

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Mike Johnson Accidentally Lets Slip Why He Won’t Fund Food Stamps

CNN host Dana Bash asked Johnson why he wouldn’t consider moving money around to fund the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, which will stop receiving federal funds at the start of November. The House speaker accidentally revealed Republicans are using the program as leverage to end the government shutdown.

“Because if you deviate from the goal of reopening the entire government, Chuck Schumer and the radicals over there will continue to play games with people’s paychecks, their livelihoods,” Johnson said. “And if you do just part of this, it will reduce pressure for them to do all of it, to do their basic job, and that is reopen the government.”

It seems clear that Democrats aren’t the ones playing games with people’s livelihoods, but instead it is Republicans who are holding SNAP benefits hostage from 42 million Americans in order to make the opposition bend. And SNAP is a hostage Republicans are more than willing to kill—they’ve already voted to gut nearly $300 billion from the program through 2034.

Earlier Thursday, Johnson claimed that President Donald Trump had already done everything he could to mitigate the harm. But in fact, the Trump administration turned back on its own policy by claiming without precedent that it cannot legally use SNAP contingency funds to keep the essential program afloat during a government shutdown.
 

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Further evidence of Trump's quickly declining mental state.

President Donald Trump took credit for winning the Nobel Prize in Physics, which was awarded this month to three scientists.

On Oct. 7, the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences announced it awarded this year’s prize to John Clarke, Michel Devoret, and John Martinis.
On Thursday, Trump took to Truth Social, where he touted a purported statement from Secretary of Energy Chris Wright, seemingly giving the president credit for the prize. The statement mentioned “A former Lawrence Berkeley National Lab scientist,” which presumably refers to Clarke, a British scientist who worked at the Berkeley Lab four decades ago:

Chris Wright: “A former Lawrence Berkeley National Lab scientist won the Nobel Prize in physics for work in Quantum physics. Quantum computing, along with AI and Fusion, are the three signature Trump science efforts. Trump 47 racks up his first Nobel Prize!!”
Trump’s Truth Social is the only source for Wright’s statement.
Apparently Trump now thinks that he's had a major hand in developing quantum computing, artificial intelligence and fusion power. Without ever learning even the basics of any of these technologies.

I'd suggest someone let Trump know that despite having the word quantum in both names, quantum physics and quantum computing are two very very different things. But really, how could he understand how that can be?
 

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I believe we'll see a (reverse) migration of city dwellers to rural communities as urban area become unsustainable in the collapsing economy.
Why do you think rural communities are more sustainable in a collapsing economy? Cities benefit a lot from the economics of scale. A lot of basic infrastructure such as package/mail delivery has to be subsidized for rural areas much more heavily than cities.
 

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I'm talking about big, giant, cities that require daily imports of food, fresh water, and such to survive. Smaller urban areas, sizable towns, offer necessary infrastructure and opportunities that are not available in small towns and community centers yes. But rural spaces are where we grow food and dispose of waste. The largest "cities" in Alabama house a few hundred-thousand each and it will be challenging for surrounding farms and ranches to supply them, and remove the refuse, when it comes to that.

It was difficult up in here a hundred years ago yet doable compared to large population areas. Governments, and wealthy individuals, stepped up then to fund implementation and improvements of city infrastructure to encourage economic recovery. What's left of our Federal system won't have that option this time around because the majority of wealth is concentrated in a few families that will not relinquish it. So my thinking is that people will be forced to decide to leave the big cities and move into, at least, smaller urbanized spaces if not "the country."

It may not come to that of course. The wealthy may establish ownership of company towns within city blocks and pay the costs of maintenance in exchange for serfdom of the people. It'll be a menial existence but we'll still have New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Phoenix and our other megacities to show the world.
 
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I'm talking about big, giant, cities that require daily imports of food, fresh water, and such to survive. Smaller urban areas, sizable towns, offer necessary infrastructure and opportunities that are not available in small towns and community centers yes. But rural spaces are where we grow food and dispose of waste. The largest "cities" in Alabama house a few hundred-thousand each and it will be challenging for surrounding farms and ranches to supply them, and remove the refuse, when it comes to that.

It was difficult up in here a hundred years ago yet doable compared to large population areas. Governments, and wealthy individuals, stepped up then to fund implementation and improvements of city infrastructure to encourage economic recovery. What's left of our Federal system won't have that option this time around because the majority of wealth is concentrated in a few families that will not relinquish it. So my thinking is that people will be forced to decide to leave the big cities and move into, at least, smaller urbanized spaces if not "the country."

It may not come to that of course. The wealthy may establish ownership of company towns within city blocks and pay the costs of maintenance in exchange for serfdom of the people. It'll be a menial existence but we'll still have New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Phoenix and our other megacities to show the world.
I think your reasoning would have been spot on over a century ago when rural towns were more self sufficient and cities were anything but. But I think int he modern economy basically EVERY town or village or city has to import a lot of goods and services that modern people are used to. Many rural towns don't have farms at all and if they do, it's often just a monocrop that they can't really live off of at all without the ability to sell it to other places. Now, practically every rural town is dependent on subsidized imports of basically everything like cities are, except they benefit a lot less from economics of scale.

That said, your thinking isn't totally wrong. Especially big urban centers might shrink. There is probably an optimum size for a city that is somewhere between a mega city like NY but likely a lot larger than most rural towns.
 
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I am in a major city surrounded by farmland. But a lot of that is soy and corn (not all of it grown for food). The wheat farmers switched to exports a long time ago. I could get a vegetable garden up in vacant lots and/or park land before they could switch.
 

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Coming next: American nuclear weapons tests. Also Trump is again delusional, because Russia has more nuclear arms.

The United States has more Nuclear Weapons than any other country. This was accomplished, including a complete update and renovation of existing weapons, during my First Term in office. Because of the tremendous destructive power, I HATED to do it, but had no choice! Russia is second, and China is a distant third, but will be even within 5 years. Because of other countries testing programs, I have instructed the Department of War to start testing our Nuclear Weapons on an equal basis. That process will begin immediately. Thank you for your attention to this matter! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

Nothing says, "I have an enormous wang" like ordering nuclear testing to resume.
 

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More evidence he's lost his marbles. Or maybe just fucked up his marble.

 
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In a way, I’m kind of glad they’re spending all this money on over the top stuff like this, and demolishing part of the White House, and giving away money to Argentina, etc etc etc. It might not make any difference to the maga cult, but it may disgust some who voted for him like farmers, and those who are going through difficult times at the moment. Anyway, one can hope