The Israeli Goverment Has Become The Monster

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Sure, I'll withdrawal my statement and hopefully it will sanitize this genocide within acceptable boundaries. I'm not well-versed in mass murder etiquette.
But does Israel really try to separate church and state? That's news to me.
Your comment is an excellent example of the antisemite's syllogism, as explained by Howard Jacobson in his book When Will Jews Be Forgiven The Holocaust?

It has for a long time been argued that pro-Israeli Jews deliberately conflate all criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism in order to silence their opponents. If there were Jews who deliberately did such a thing, or still do so in their hearts, there will be very few impolitic enough to do it openly any longer. The point has been well taken: yes, you can be a critic of the settlements, the occupation, Gaza . . . not sure about the country’s right to exist, but OK, you can be a critic of that as well . . . and not be an anti-Semite. What decidedly doesn’t follow from that, however, is that so long as you are a critic of Israel you cannot be an anti-Semite. Yet that, by false syllogism, is the point at which we have arrived.

The syllogism goes like this:

Not all critics of Israel are anti-Semites.
I am a critic of Israel.
Therefore I am not an anti-Semite.

In this way has anti-Zionism become an inviolable space.
 

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There are very few people here that I have bothered to Ignore - that waste of oxygen is one of them and for good reason.

The only proper way to actually respond to them is frowned upon even here.
 
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Guardian headline yesterday
In the months since [Oct 7th], the Palestinian prison population has almost doubled after Israeli forces began conducting regular raids across the West Bank, detaining more than 8,755 people according to the Palestinian prisoners and ex-detainees commission. Most were held under administrative detention, meaning without charge.

As the numbers inside Israeli prisons have swelled, with Palestinians packed into overcrowded cells, so too have abuses. Former detainees recounted regular beatings and physical violence, along with a lack of basic care including limited food, no access to clean clothes, reading materials, warm blankets, hygiene products or medical care.
Far worse to come, sadly. No amount of internet scubbing of negative articles and distractions can stem the flow of reports of IDF human rights violations including many posted by IDF members to their own socmed accounts.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/18/israeli-abuse-of-jailed-palestinian-leader-marwan-barghouti-amounts-to-torture
 

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A helicopter of the entourage of Iran's president Ebrahim Raisi had a hard landing. It is unclear at the moment if the president was aboard this helicopter or not. 16 rescue teams spread out to do their job, but are hampered by difficult weather conditions.

 
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50 year old helicopter with no spare parts available. The fuselage appears largely intact. If there were signs of foul play they would be trumpeting it to the skies.
 

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50 year old helicopter with no spare parts available. The fuselage appears largely intact. If there were signs of foul play they would be trumpeting it to the skies.
50 year old helicopter crashed in terrible weather. Probably just an accident but even in the complete absence of foul play, I wouldn't be shocked if some try to claim it was.
 
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Israel is out of fucking control:

Yep.
A long read, but explains a lot.

CNN is facing a backlash from its own staff over editorial policies they say have led to a regurgitation of Israeli propaganda and the censoring of Palestinian perspectives in the network’s coverage of the war in Gaza.
CNN journalists say the tone of coverage is set at the top by its new editor-in-chief and CEO, Mark Thompson, who took up his post two days after the 7 October Hamas attack.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/feb/04/cnn-staff-pro-israel-bias?CMP=twt_b-gdnnews
 

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More media shenanigans.

I've noticed that reports of some of the wildest and most heartbreaking allegations of human rights abuses by the IDF are slowly leaking out, reaching more mainstream news sources, and wonder how long it will take until they finally start reporting what's actually happening in Gaza, instead of indiscriminately regurgitating Israeli govt talking points.

How Zionist operative Falter attempted to disrupt a London protest aginst the Gazan genocide.

Agent of the Zionist entity

Covers a lot of ground. By British journalist Jonathan Cook who was based in Nazareth for 20 years.

How an ‘antisemitism hoax’ drowned out the discovery of mass graves in Gaza

But just as with Falter’s hoax, the goal of such accusations by Israel is never to expose the truth. The aim is to distract from the truth.

The same can be said of Israel’s still unsubstantiated claims of unprecedented savagery committed by Hamas on 7 October, from beheading babies to carrying out systematic mass rape.

None of these allegations, which have been widely regurgitated by the establishment western media, have ever been backed up with evidence. Whenever testimonies have been scrutinised, they have unravelled.

But all these claims have served a purpose. They keep western publics focused on evil humanitarian aid workers and evil anti-war protesters rather than the kind of evil that dares in broad daylight to kill 15,000 children, destroy hospitals, and hide bodies in mass graves.
 

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Israel withdrew its ambassadors from Ireland, Norway and Spain for consultations as reaction to them acknowledging Palestine as sovereign state.

Israel's minister of foreign affairs is fuming...


 

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Who are the real terrorists here?

Overall Israeli policy is very simple and effective.

1. Create a Gazan terrorism group by providing funding.

2. Bomb cilvilians you claim are hiding members of the group you created.

3. Seize their destroyed land for the Gaza 2035 project, while robbing them blind of all natural resources, prime beachfront real estate, etc, with help from unscrupulous arab states.

4. Repeat in West Bank, to benefit settlers funded, armed, & encouraged by Israeli gov.

To be fair, there's terrorists on both sides now. For vastly different reasons.

Note to Israeli PM re that line, "after committing heinous sexual crimes witnessed by the world,"

No, we didn't. You're a liar.

That's already been debunked:

There Was No Cover-Up of Hamas’s Sexual Violence on October 7

Two of the three victims specifically singled out by the New York Times in a marquee exposé published in December, which alleged that Hamas had deliberately weaponized sexual violence during the October 7 attacks, were not in fact victims of sexual assault, according to the spokesperson for the Kibbutz Be’eri, which the Times identified as the location of the attack.

Care to comment on IDF mass graves of cuffed & executed medics discovered in hospitals, asshole?