The Fall Of The House of MAGA

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This is a really interesting analysis of the MAGA cult and what is happening with it as the wheels have disintegrated on the Trump train.


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Video Summary (from the X post by @MAGACult2):

The ~4.5-minute TikTok clip (originally by @lucasbean_) features a man speaking directly to the camera. He argues that the MAGA movement is collapsing in three distinct “levels,” similar to how Nazi regime supporters in WWII-era Germany didn’t all abandon it at once but peeled away for different reasons over time.

  • Level 1: Casual MAGA (already mostly gone)
    These are the low-commitment supporters who wore the hats, flew the flags, and went to rallies mainly because it felt like being on a “winning team.” Once the excitement and “cool factor” faded, they quietly removed the flags and hats with no announcement. They now avoid talking about politics and will soon deny they ever supported Trump.
  • Level 2: True Believers (currently fracturing fast)
    These people built their entire identity, social circles, and online presence around MAGA. The speaker cites the “sunk cost trap” and notes that even deeply invested people eventually hit a personal breaking point. He highlights recent examples: podcasters/comedians Andrew Schulz, Joe Rogan, and Shawn Ryan publicly distancing themselves—Rogan calling MAGA supporters “dorks,” “weirdos,” “uninteresting and unintelligent people,” and the others saying “I voted for none of this.” Their massive audiences (tens of millions) are starting to turn, accelerating the erosion of this group.
  • Level 3: Fanatics (the last to go, but will become irrelevant)
    The smallest but loudest group—Christian nationalists, Proud Boys, militias, and Jan. 6 types. Drawing on psychologist Leon Festinger’s study of a doomsday cult, the speaker explains cognitive dissonance: the more someone sacrifices, the harder they double down rather than admit they were wrong. He compares it to how ~25% of Germans still held a favorable view of Hitler years after WWII ended and the death camps were exposed. These fanatics will be the final ones “standing in a burning building,” but without the broader movement behind them, they’ll fade into irrelevance.
Closing message: Level 1 has already left, Level 2 is quietly walking out, and soon only the fanatics will remain—powerless. The speaker urges continued pressure and accountability to finish the collapse.
 

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The critical question is how far Trump's reconstruction of the organisation of the American federal structures into an autocracy has already progressed.

Remember: a wannabee dictator only needs to get elected once if he knows what he is doing.
 
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The story and man behind the ‘Leaving Maga’ billboard in Tallahassee
A new billboard has joined Tallahassee's roadside landscape, directing people to a budding organization called "Leaving MAGA."

The Florida man behind the sign said the advertisement wasn't created to "troll" Republicans, the president or his supporters, but rather to extend a hand to people a part of the "Make America Great Again" movement who may be having second thoughts about their beliefs.
For seven years, the Parkland resident served as a grassroots organizer and right-wing pundit for the likes of Fox News. He posed for photos at Mar-a-Lago. He created a podcast, warning listeners that liberals were poised to take their guns, indoctrinate their children and replace them at the ballot box.
They still believe those things, but now they want to be absolved for their MAGA sins.
 

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Let's wait and see what the mid term elections will bring and even more important what the aftermath of it will be, when Trumpty dumpty seems to have fallen from the wall like in the nursery rhyme.
Is the USA still free enough to accept unpleasant election outcomes for one of the two major parties?
 
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They will become "You can't just hate us because you disagree with some of my politics."

Like fuckers, I "disagree" with some things for like, Clinton, or Biden, MAGA are fucking Nazis and only about hate and fascism.
 

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They will become "You can't just hate us because you disagree with some of my politics."

Like fuckers, I "disagree" with some things for like, Clinton, or Biden, MAGA are fucking Nazis and only about hate and fascism.
It's a newer version of the "the Confederacy was actually about states' rights" argument.
 

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They will become "You can't just hate us because you disagree with some of my politics."
My response is usually: "Oh yeah? How you doing to stop us? We can and will hate you for your stupid short-sighted destructive political choices. Our hate is only a pale imitation of the hate your side spews against the left. And WE WILL CONTINUE TO HATE YOUR STUPID CHOICES, until you stop supporting criminal destructive, unethical, immoral, and unconstitutional candidates and policies."
 
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They're rats abandoning a sinking ship. But they're still rats.
Many, though it's easier to deal with individuals than a 'colony'. They've still got a pretty substantial 'rat king' thing going.
(a hideous and eventually doomed amalgamation of several rats whose tails have become permanently tangled/knotted/stuck together)
 

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My response is usually: "Oh yeah? How you doing to stop us? We can and will hate you for your stupid short-sighted destructive political choices. Our hate is only a pale imitation of the hate your side spews against the left. And WE WILL CONTINUE TO HATE YOUR STUPID CHOICES, until you stop supporting criminal destructive, unethical, immoral, and unconstitutional candidates and policies."
Thats the real stupidity on their part.

Like yeah, at this point, "we hate MAGA". But that doesn't mean we are going to basically throw you out of the country or kill you or drive you to suicide for being MAGA. It basically just means, we are going to ignore your ass or tell you to fuck off.

Meanwhile, MAGA and the people they hate...
 

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Thats the real stupidity on their part.

Like yeah, at this point, "we hate MAGA". But that doesn't mean we are going to basically throw you out of the country or kill you or drive you to suicide for being MAGA. It basically just means, we are going to ignore your ass or tell you to fuck off.

Meanwhile, MAGA and the people they hate...
I am good with deporting them all to Russia.
 

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I am good with deporting them all to Russia.
Just keep them on your own continent please. Just saying. :D
May I suggest a small island somewhere in the middle of the ocean instead?
 
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Just keep them on your own continent please. Just saying. :D
May I suggest a small island somewhere in the middle of the ocean instead?
I hear good things about North Sentinel Island.
 

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That would be cruel to the Sentinelese, who would be vulnerable to the various diseases carried by Trump and his followers.

Since MAGA is so obsessed with annexing Canada and Greenland, may I suggest Hans Island instead?



That way, Canadians and Greenlanders could stand at their shores and mock them from afar.
 
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That would be cruel to the Sentinelese, who would be vulnerable to the various diseases carried by Trump and his followers.

Since MAGA is so obsessed with annexing Canada and Greenland, may I suggest Hans Island instead?



That way, Canadians and Greenlanders could stand at their shores and mock them from afar.
But.. but... the vulnerable diverse vegetation.. and they might escape from it during wintertime, no?