The 2024 U.S. Presidential race

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Donald Trump has picked Senator J.D. Vance as his running mate, so vice president.

 

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Because he's nearly a political unknown at the national level, they need to start pounding not just on Vance's fringe-Christian, far right-wing views, but also the things he's said about Trump.

The not-so-kind things J.D. Vance said about Trump before he was VP pick
  1. “America’s Hitler”
  2. “Trump is cultural heroin”
  3. “I can’t stomach Trump”
  4. “Fellow Christians, everyone is watching us when we apologize for this man”
  5. “I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy. I never liked him”
That "America's Hitler" should especially sting now that he's trying to push back on the attacks of Trump's authoritarian leanings.
 

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That doesn't matter. What matters is allowing undecided voters to see it, so they can make more informed decisions. They should be aware of the level of chaos and mendacity within Trump's past and potentially future administration.
With the exception of some youngsters we all lived through Trumps presidency, so everyone should be aware of what it's like.
 

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With the exception of some youngsters we all lived through Trumps presidency, so everyone should be aware of what it's like.
then why has he drawn even when he was so reviled before? Memories fade, people lose focus, good or bad things are drawn to the fore, submerging or displacing earlier memories. If this wasn't the case, then the most popular beverage at the current moment can stop advertising and coast on it's reputation. That doesn't happen, it's been tried.
 
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1) The fact that Trump still has a shadow of a chance proves that nearly half of America's voters completely lack the capacity to make a rational and informed decision.

2) The fact that Biden still has a shadow of a chance proves another (slightly overlapping) near half are too easy to manipulate.

Just like too many people in the past were prevented from voting over ridiculous and exploitable reasoning. Too many people currently are being driven to vote over ridiculous and exploitable reasoning. Surely there is a middle ground of intelligent, socially aware, culturally aware, and rational part of the population along with a neutral means to locate them.

Really, why participate in a dog&pony show to choose between Mr Magoo and Tangerine Hitler with the deciding factor being who has the bigger fan club?

Actually, that's my question:
Why participate in a dog&pony show just to choose between Mr Magoo and Tangerine Hitler with the deciding factor being who has the bigger fan club?
 

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1) The fact that Trump still has a shadow of a chance proves that nearly half of America's voters completely lack the capacity to make a rational and informed decision.

2) The fact that Biden still has a shadow of a chance proves another (slightly overlapping) near half are too easy to manipulate.

Just like too many people in the past were prevented from voting over ridiculous and exploitable reasoning. Too many people currently are being driven to vote over ridiculous and exploitable reasoning. Surely there is a middle ground of intelligent, socially aware, culturally aware, and rational part of the population along with a neutral means to locate them.

Really, why participate in a dog&pony show to choose between Mr Magoo and Tangerine Hitler with the deciding factor being who has the bigger fan club?

Actually, that's my question:
Why participate in a dog&pony show just to choose between Mr Magoo and Tangerine Hitler with the deciding factor being who has the bigger fan club?
 

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Mr Magoo and Tangerine Hitler
Mr Magoo is surrounded by competent statesmen and other assorted professionals.

Tangerine Hitler is surrounded by crooks and incompetents, one of which became the poster boy for unnecessary COVID deaths.
 

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Mr Magoo is surrounded by competent statesmen and other assorted professionals.

Tangerine Hitler is surrounded by crooks and incompetents, one of which became the poster boy for unnecessary COVID deaths.
So, why not vote for one of his competent statesmen? Cut out the middle man who can't tell up from down.
 

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In hockey, this is called a deflection. You'll need to do some of the work in the primaries if you want a say in who runs.
Had to Google both.
Deflection looks like a bait&switch tactic to me, maybe?
Primaries looks like a friends-only vote for who to dictate everyone else to vote for, maybe?
 

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Question for the floor. When did America stop teaching civics in school?
Joke's on you. I never paid attention in school. Dropped out somewhere around the 9th grade. Flunked too often to be fully aware of which grade I was actually in at the time. =^-^=
 

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Joke's on you. I never paid attention in school. Dropped out somewhere around the 9th grade. Flunked too often to be fully aware of which grade I was actually in at the time. =^-^=
If this is an example of the US electorate, the joke's on multicellular life.
 
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