The 2024 U.S. Presidential race

[Cindy Claveau]

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Has this been confirmed by any reputable media sources?

 

[Noodles]

Should have sent some Harris branded busses out to collect everyone.

 

[Beebo Brink]

Has this been confirmed by any reputable media sources?

Bus Company Reportedly Left Trump Rally Attendees Stranded At Coachella After Campaign Ignored Payment Requests (polinews.org)

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Bus Company Reportedly Left Trump Rally Attendees Stranded At Coachella After Campaign Ignored Payment Requests (polinews.org)

Thanks, Beebo, but that simply reports what someone on Twitter says. His profile reads (in its entirety)

I now only occasionally post. I have no other social media profiles.
EU citizen
France
Joined April 2020

I wonder if there is some more substantial corroboration than "somebody who says they're in France claims."

It's a good story, but it leaves me wondering what the payment terms actually were. Not that I know anything about organising such events, but I'd expect a bus company either to invoice the organisers after the event or to want payment in advance. The reference to "their repeated requests for payment " suggests the latter, but in that case, if they hadn't been paid up-front, why provide any buses to take Trump's supporters to the event in the first place? The idea they'd take the attendees to the site and then, in effect, try to hold them hostage against payment of their invoice seems a bit far-fetched.

Someone else on Twitter, who seemed to be posting from the rally while the debacle was proceeding, said that he'd spoken to a bus driver who'd told him the problem was that the garage had run out of fuel for the buses, thus necessitating a long trip to another garage, and several buses had run out of fuel trying to get there. I have some questions about that, too, but I wonder if there's any reason to prefer one version to the other.

ETA: This report suggests that, by the time Trump's speech finished (presumably because the event over-ran, as his rallies seem frequently to do), the bus drivers' shifts had finished and they'd gone home. That I can believe, particularly if California (or the bus company's insurers) has rules about how long drivers can work without an 8-hour break.

https://eu.desertsun.com/story/news/local/2024/10/14/trump-supporters-left-stranded-after-rally-near-coachella-california/75678439007/

 

[Beebo Brink]

Someone else on Twitter, who seemed to be posting from the rally while the debacle was proceeding, said that he'd spoken to a bus driver who'd told him the problem was that the garage had run out of fuel for the buses, thus necessitating a long trip to another garage, and several buses had run out of fuel trying to get there.

And yet another story I read was based on a supposed Reddit post by a user who said his father was one of those bus drivers. By this account the drivers walked off because this person's father had been assaulted by a rally attendee.

So yeah, nothing is clear yet. I wonder if the major media outlets care enough to figure out what really went wrong.

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Polinews.org doesn't appear on the MediaBias site, but rather appears to be possibly associated with 'PoliticalTribune' with far left/mixed reliability.

With the proliferation of random yellow journalism and the general uselessness of major media protecting Trump, it's hard to tell what's real here.

 

[Beebo Brink]

Make of this what you will:
The actual reason trump supporters got stranded : r/CoachellaValley (reddit.com)

Heya. The male driver was my dad...

My father was attacked at a rally

He works for the bus company that was doing transportation for the rally in Coachella. The rally didn't think about the logistics of 15k people and the buses weren't enough.

People got angry and began to riot. Throwing themselves in front of buses, banging on the windows and doors, and attacked two bus drivers. (One female driver was spit on by an elderly woman. The woman had to be restrained by another person from grabbing the driver by the hair)

The other driver was my father. He is a veteran and served in Vietnam and has head trauma from the war and from an car accident years ago...he was sucker punched from behind the head while he was walking outside his bus. He has a broken nose and hopefully his prior head trauma isn't worsen but won't know until some time. (He did get a CAT scan) He didn't see who hit him and he lost vision temporarily in his right eye (it's back now).

I just cannot understand this cult of violence and hate. My dad is 70 and what a coward to hit someone from behind because of something that was not my dad's fault.

The news didn't report this and even riot police showed up because of this behavior with the buses...

Just had to vent and get this off my chest. I just am angry and sad at the state of our political climate

 

[Cindy Claveau]

People got angry and began to riot. Throwing themselves in front of buses, banging on the windows and doors, and attacked two bus drivers. (One female driver was spit on by an elderly woman. The woman had to be restrained by another person from grabbing the driver by the hair)

That narrows it down. It was either a Black Friday sale at Macy's or a classic Trump rally - spit is extra.

 

[Isabeau]

Jimmy Carter Achieves His Goal, Lives Long Enough to Vote for Kamala Harris

 

[Free]

Well, that about wraps it up for Georgia. /me laughs in MAGA

 

[WolfEyes]

try to hold them hostage

I disagree. They were not being held hostage. They were free to leave at any time by any means they wanted. Could have called an Uber (makes lots of drivers happy), taken public transportation, called family or a friend. Stranded? Perhaps. Hostages? Hardly.

 

[Free]

I disagree. They were not being held hostage. They were free to leave at any time by any means they wanted. Could have called an Uber (makes lots of drivers happy), taken public transportation, called family or a friend. Stranded? Perhaps. Hostages? Hardly.

That was part of Innula's point about it being "far-fetched."

 

[Cindy Claveau]

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

The other answer to her question is every A-list celebrity... right wingers have a complex about how no artists or celebrities like them. Every 5th post on a lot of right wing forums is about a celebrity who hates or likes them, and they project that left wingers care that much too.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

To be expected: Trump wants to be interviewed by Joe Rogan. Donald Trump’s Next Stop on His Podcast Blitz May Be With Joe Rogan

Unexpected: Kamala Harris wants to be on Rogan's podcast, too. Trump And Harris May Appear On Joe Rogan’s Podcast—Despite His Harsh Comments About Both

So Joe Rogan as king maker. The media in the US is really fucked up.

 

[Lexxi]

Wait, I initially read her tweet in a "don't vote for Trump or you get these people" way. Was her tweet supposed to be pro-Trump or anti-Trump?

 

[Khamon]

It's a question. I was reading the OP as anti but perhaps she's stupid and believes that getting those people is a good thing. Who is Mila Joy?

 

[Cristiano]

This is a really insightful post about why so many white men in particular support Trump:

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke has officially endorsed the Green Party nominee Jill Stein over Donald Trump due to Trump's stance on Israel.

Duke, an antisemitic white supremacist, said the candidates' stances on Israel had led him to make "one of the most important statements that I have ever made politically."

"I endorse for president of the United States Green Party candidate, Dr. Jill Stein," Duke said on his radio show on Monday. "Although Dr. Stein and I obviously have our differences on important issues, she's the only candidate who speaks clearly against the war in the Middle East."

Duke acknowledged that his endorsement of the far-left candidate would "shock" his supporters, but said that his decision was based on what is "good for white people, Europeans, as well as all humanity."

He said Stein was the only major candidate "brave enough to call out Israel's massacre of Palestinians in Gaza, the genocide that is going on right now, and the damage it's doing to the American people."

Stein said she rejected the endorsement from Duke.

"A racist troll has 'endorsed' our campaign to draw attention to himself, and certain smear merchants are happy to platform this troll to attack us," Stein wrote in a post on X, formerly Twitter.

"Of course I reject any 'endorsement' from a white supremacist like David Duke, unlike Kamala Harris who can't stop bragging about her endorsement from white supremacist mass murderer Dick Cheney."

Former KKK leader David Duke endorses Jill Stein, trashes Donald Trump

The former grand wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan said Stein was the only major candidate "brave enough to call out Israel's massacre of Palestinians."

www.newsweek.com