SCOTUS set to overturn Roe and Casey

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Somewhat surprising to me.


They will make laws criminalizing going across a state border to obtain an abortion while they wait on the presidency and senate in 2024 to enact a federal ban. I was thinking that they might well be shooting themselves in the foot by taking away one of their wedge issues, but I realized that they're not done. They still hate many things and people which can be used as bait. Also, the electorate has changed in many ways recently. We have folks who have no issue whatsoever now with the idea of full out authoritarianism or fascism. The traditional red bait isn't needed for their votes.
 
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So I’ve been away a while and at first wasn’t sure if this was intended as parody or satire but based on the other responses I’m guessing not.

Reading through your elaborated post I can kinda see what your ultimate end objective is, and while I’m not sure this approach will be the most successful in motivating support and change, I’m fairly certain it’s bad timing for this approach.

While provoking anger, or tough love if that indeed is what you are intending, can be useful tools it requires good timing and a level of trust that doesn’t appear to currently be the case.
Their post history does not lead me to believe that they are posting in good faith.
 

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This is what happens when you support the Clintons and their cronies. Stop voting for the elderly!
Hillary is the one who fucking warned everyone. How fucking long has been yelling that "WOMEN'S RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS AND HUMAN RIGHTS ARE WOMEN'S RIGHTS". And SHE would have been defending them every step of the way.

I join in the fuck offs. Fuck as completely off as someone can fuck off.
 

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This is what happens when you support the Clintons and their cronies. Stop voting for the elderly!
And, by the way, 5 of the Justices were appointed by 2 Presidents who didn't win the popular vote. One of those seats stolen by Mitch McConnell during President Obama's Administration. Was he too elderly, ya think? :unsure:

AND, codifying Roe into law means ending the Filibuster. Guess who's standing in the way of THAT? Or are Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema "elderly", too?
 

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I'm fucking stunned. Yes, we all saw this coming, but still. My hatred for TFG and Turtle McTurtleface burns with the intensity of a thousand suns for stacking the Court the way they did.

Right now, it's our right to choose. How soon before our only rights are to be in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant, making dear hubby a sandwich?
:qft:

For all the women who voted Republican and actually said to me "they're never going to overturn Roe v Wade" ... well, be prepared to see women die from back alley abortions, because now they've done it.

For all the women who thought I was crazy because I said they were coming for your birth control, well watch them, because that and same sex marriage are next.

Does anyone here think congress will do what is required and actually pass a law that protect women and same sex rights? I certainly don't.

Republicans and Theocrats have gerrymandered districts and passed "voting rights" laws to the extent that soon we won't have a say in anything, even the right to vote.

This is one of the rare moments in my life, when I'm glad I never was able to have the daughter and grand daughter that I've always longed for.
 

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Republicans and Theocrats have gerrymandered districts and passed "voting rights" laws to the extent that soon we won't have a say in anything, even the right to vote.
You are 100% correct. This isn't the end ...it's the beginning.

 

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You are 100% correct. This isn't the end ...it's the beginning.

In the meantime, all I can say to all of my female friends, as we watch your rights be stripped away by Christian extremists placed on the Supreme Court by other Christian extremists, is that I’ll be joining you soon. They’ve never accepted our full humanity, and now they’re putting us back in our places.
:qft: Yes, this, SO MUCH THIS!

I'm so angry right now, I've run out of words and am just in a rage. :anger:
 

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Fuck, Loving isn't safe, and Republicans have called for ending that as well. This is set to start unraveling a century of progress.
Literally, yes.
Rose Karuna I'm dazed and feel like a deer in the headlights personally; like I'm watching a tornado or a bomb explosion wipe out everything we've gained.
 

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For all the women who voted Republican and actually said to me "they're never going to overturn Roe v Wade" ... well, be prepared to see women die from back alley abortions, because now they've done it.

For all the women who thought I was crazy because I said they were coming for your birth control, well watch them, because that and same sex marriage are next.

Does anyone here think congress will do what is required and actually pass a law that protect women and same sex rights? I certainly don't.

Republicans and Theocrats have gerrymandered districts and passed "voting rights" laws to the extent that soon we won't have a say in anything, even the right to vote.

This is one of the rare moments in my life, when I'm glad I never was able to have the daughter and grand daughter that I've always longed for.
We won't be dying just from back alley abortions. We'll be dying from lack of proper medical care, period. They don't give a flying fuck about their fellow humans. All they care about is lining their pockets and bending everyone else over a low tree limb.
 

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Oh yeah, I'll just sit back and watch you morons push the country farther into theocracy, and never ever say I told you so... not even once!

That's what you want, isn't it? You don't want to be called out on your own bullshit. That's not going to happen.

This is what happens when you elect cowards. From Garland's failed confirmation to Trump's election, and seating of a record number of Trump's judges without a hint of resistance, the party leadership has directly caused this, and you've been cheerleading for them the entire time. Now you think we all forgot what you support? Nah, I don't think so.

... so yeah, I told you so.

Maybe we can fix it if you don't support timid little cowards when you vote this year. The alternative is to elect the same cowards, and let Trump establish a state religion in 2024.
Joe Biden Presidency, Democrats controlling both houses of Congress, a collapsing economy, failed foreign policy to the brink of nuclear war, and the Orwellian formation of an actual Ministry of Truth. And it's bubblesort who needs to apologize for pointing out that the Emperor is buck naked?

There's a point, bubblesort, where you just have to save your own mind and move on from abusers and their apologists.

This place will never change, and if you stay, you may end up thinking this shit is normal:

 

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I'm fucking stunned. Yes, we all saw this coming, but still. My hatred for TFG and Turtle McTurtleface burns with the intensity of a thousand suns for stacking the Court the way they did.

Right now, it's our right to choose. How soon before our only rights are to be in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant, making dear hubby a sandwich?
In a discussion on fascism in the 20th Century on NPR last week, it was said that one of the primary characteristics of 20th Century fascism was the suppression of women's rights, compelling us to become baby machines and rewarding success in that biological arena. We are probably going to have to defend ourselves against American fascism for a good long time. We are hanging on by our nails from it at this point. If states like New York or California ever head down this anti-woman road, we Americans will land in some form of theocratic fascism. I won't see it, but my children and grandchildren will. All I know is that I'll struggle against it as long as I live.