Police Brutality Protests Thread

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White nationalists are always so invested in the myths of their heritage. It’s funny how you cling to fairy tales and deny modern reality.
It is funny. I have no problem with the good and bad sides of my ancestors. It is interesting but neither has any impact on who I am.
 

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Or just treat its posts as ads and go on to the next thing someone said. Trolls are going to troll.
You realize it just wants a reason to troll you right? Do not give it the satisfaction of putting its posts in yours.
Putting aside that the whole “just ignore the trolls” hasn’t worked at any point ever, I am happy to ignore the douchebags when it’s just normal troll shitposting. This muppet barely registered on me before tonight because it was clearly a non-entity, But when they are overtly, disgustingly racist (or homophobic, or any other bigoted trash) it’s not just run of the mill trolling. You want to shrug and move on, go nuts. I’m not. I don’t care that it’s a garbage troll. There is some shit you do not just skip over.

Fuck that noise. I know black members of the community who read this forum. What does it say if everyone just shrugs and blithely skips that shit? No. We’ve had throwdowns against assholes for racist garbage, mocking sexual assault, transphobic bullshit, etc. If it bothers you that much feel free to take your own advice and put me on ignore.
 

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There's a big difference between armed insurrection in the name of The Boogaloo and peaceful protest against police brutality.
FTFY


I agree more than anyone about police being overbearing, problem is that its not as much of a racial problem as a policing issue in the U.S. Nothing wrong with standing up for what you think is right but when you look at the stats there are many more whites killed by police than blacks each year, like 3-2 is my understanding.
There are like 5-6 times as many whites as blacks in the US.

If they had equal odds of being killed by police, there would be 5-6 times as many whites as blacks being killed. Not 2-3.

Do you need remedial math or something?
 

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Putting aside that the whole “just ignore the trolls” hasn’t worked at any point ever, I am happy to ignore the douchebags when it’s just normal troll shitposting. This muppet barely registered on me before tonight because it was clearly a non-entity, But when they are overtly, disgustingly racist (or homophobic, or any other bigoted trash) it’s not just run of the mill trolling. You want to shrug and move on, go nuts. I’m not. I don’t care that it’s a garbage troll. There is some shit you do not just skip over.

Fuck that noise. I know black members of the community who read this forum. What does it say if everyone just shrugs and blithely skips that shit? No. We’ve had throwdowns against assholes for racist garbage, mocking sexual assault, transphobic bullshit, etc. If it bothers you that much feel free to take your own advice and put me on ignore.
I do not put people on ignore most of the time but some people ignore trolls as soon as they prove themself to be such. If you want a long convo with him maybe use spoiler tags inside the quotes so they do not ignore you to avoid seeing its bile but just what you said?
 

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I do not put people on ignore most of the time but some people ignore trolls as soon as they prove themself to be such. If you want a long convo with him maybe use spoiler tags inside the quotes so they do not ignore you to avoid seeing its bile but just what you said?
Actually, I don't see quotes from people I have ignored. It can lead to some confusion, sometimes, but usually the responses will clue me in on who I'm ignoring is being a complete shit.
 

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Actually, I don't see quotes from people I have ignored. It can lead to some confusion, sometimes, but usually the responses will clue me in on who I'm ignoring is being a complete shit.
Cool, an improvement from slu. I guess you just see the text someone types in reply?
 

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I agree more than anyone about police being overbearing, problem is that its not as much of a racial problem as a policing issue in the U.S. Nothing wrong with standing up for what you think is right but when you look at the stats there are many more whites killed by police than blacks each year, like 3-2 is my understanding. Have to take into account that blacks commit more violent crimes than whites and therefore have more police interactions. What it comes down to is do we have too many stupid laws or are blacks not required to follow the same laws as whites, I've been pulled over many times and had the cuffs put on too tight.
This is a big blanket of alternative facts.

If you're black in the United States, you are more likely to be detained by, beaten up by, or killed by the police even for routine traffic stops than any other person.

Also, why are you being cuffed if you're just being pulled over, unless you're doing something incredibly stupid, like talking back to the cop or being threatening to the cop in any way.

Here's the difference in routine traffic stops for black v. white:
White person: Yes, officer, no officer, here's my license officer. I have not been drinking. No, officer. A warning? Thank you, officer.

Black person: Yes officer, I'm reaching for my license BLAM OH FUCK YOU SHOT HIM!!!

See the difference? It happens far more often than you realize. And that is why people are marching.
 
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Cristiano, if there's a way to ban using IP, that would be nice. Thank you and good night.
 
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I do not put people on ignore most of the time but some people ignore trolls as soon as they prove themself to be such. If you want a long convo with him maybe use spoiler tags inside the quotes so they do not ignore you to avoid seeing its bile but just what you said?
 

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I removed Nostrildamus from VVO. His posts were straight up white supremacist talking points.
I found him useful as a display of the contents of the rabbit hole, but this works too. For a window into the nuthouse there’s always Twitter or Facebook. :)
 

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I found him useful as a display of the contents of the rabbit hole, but this works too. For a window into the nuthouse there’s always Twitter or Facebook. :)
I had not followed his posts closely because I've been out of commission recently with food poisoning. However, after someone sought me out and asked me to look at his posts, I didn't see a troll. I saw someone whose rhetoric is dangerous and damaging. I don't mind other points of view, but no one here should have to be subjected to openly racist comments (or other forms of hate). It's easy to just dismiss them as the rantings of a racist, but it matters. I don't want members of this community to have to deal with that kind of toxicity, in whatever form it comes.
 

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An overlooked aspect of the police “cover up” culture:

How we do it in the UK (it's not perfect, by any means, but I offer it as an example of what another country does)

Independent Office for Police Conduct

By law, forces must refer certain matters to us. These include:
  • certain complaints made to their force – such as those that include an allegation of serious corruption or serious assault
  • indications that police officers or staff have committed misconduct – for example, any suggestion that a criminal offence has been committed or that a serious injury has been caused
  • if someone had direct or indirect contact with the police when, or shortly before, they were seriously injured or died. However, forces only need to refer cases where the contact may have caused or contributed to the death or injury
We can direct forces to record incidents and then ‘call them in’. We can also consider incidents that have not been referred to us by police forces, and decide whether and how we will investigate them.
 
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I found him useful as a display of the contents of the rabbit hole, but this works too. For a window into the nuthouse there’s always Twitter or Facebook. :)
Currently the Wastelands Weekend group on FB is trying to purge themselves of them and their apologist enablers.
 
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I had not followed his posts closely because I've been out of commission recently with food poisoning. However, after someone sought me out and asked me to look at his posts, I didn't see a troll. I saw someone whose rhetoric is dangerous and damaging. I don't mind other points of view, but no one here should have to be subjected to openly racist comments (or other forms of hate). It's easy to just dismiss them as the rantings of a racist, but it matters. I don't want members of this community to have to deal with that kind of toxicity, in whatever form it comes.
It was by the book trolling, all the arguments were super stereotypical and you could see the intent from a mile away.

Like a greatest hits of rightwing responses.

AND A DAY EARLY!!!!!