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Innula Zenovka

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Over here we can, and do, try cases in the defendant's absence under certain circumstances -- the defendant can't frustrate the trial process by voluntarily absenting herself, any more than she could by refusing to leave her cell, if she's held on remand.

The law here takes the attitude that defendants have a right to silence, and a right not to participate at all in their defence, so if she chooses to exercise it, that's her decision.

If anyone's interested there's a summary of the rules here, at 3-3 Trial in the absence of the defendant.

Judges don't like doing it, but in a case like this, where it would be difficult to conclude her failure to attend is anything but voluntary and that an adjournment will not help resolve the matter, I suspect the judge will decide it's in the interests of public justice to proceed without her.
 
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Her attorney saying she will not return to the UK because it was a"terrible accident" conveniently leaves out that a similar accident in most states would receive a similar sentence on conviction as the UK calls for.

No one is disputing that it was an accident.
 

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Her attorney saying she will not return to the UK because it was a"terrible accident" conveniently leaves out that a similar accident in most states would receive a similar sentence on conviction as the UK calls for.

No one is disputing that it was an accident.
If the CPS thought it wasn't an accident, the charge would be murder.

I suspect that, if she maintains her refusal to cooperate in the trial process, she'll find herself convicted in her absence and, assuming the US courts won't extradite her, then she'll remain in the US with an outstanding international arrest warrant waiting for her if she ever leaves the country again.
 
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At the candle factory that was destroyed rather than the Amazon warehouse (we haven't heard anything from survivors of the latter yet), but just as I said:


For hours, as word of the coming storm spread, as many as 15 workers beseeched managers to let them take shelter at their own homes, only to have their requests rebuffed, the workers said.

McKayla Emery, 21, said in an interview from her hospital bed that workers first asked to leave shortly after tornado sirens sounded outside the factory around 5:30 p.m.

Elijah Johnson, 20, was working in the back of the building when several employees wanting to head home walked in to speak with supervisors. He joined in on the request.

“I asked to leave and they told me I’d be fired,” Johnson said. “Even with the weather like this, you’re still going to fire me?” he asked.

“Yes,” a manager responded, Johnson told NBC News.

Johnson said managers went so far as to take a roll call in hopes of finding out who had left work.
If no one has mentioned it yet, last night I saw where someone at the Amazon warehouse (not the candle factory) did in fact message (not tweet) someone that they would be home after the storm because they were told they could not leave without losing their jobs.

Snopes says it's true.


 

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I hope Sacoolas enjoyed her stay in Britain because she's never going there again. Consider it a completed bucket item?
 
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I hope she's seen everywhere outside the US she had on her bucket list because, as I suggested earlier, I don't think she's going to be making any more trips abroad.
And aside from any leisure activities that may have been disrupted, her career as an agent is in tatters (as is that of her husband, too, I would imagine). She is now globally notorious, not a resume asset in her field. Or any other, for that matter.
 
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Only a few smallish tornadoes today; but there was still a huge storm system and straight-line wind was the big threat. This is what it looked like in the plains:

 
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Biden has been silent, and useless on labor issues, and union actions, during a year full of some of the biggest union actions in living memory. What's his stance on the Alabama coal miners? IATSE? American Apparel? Truckers? McDonalds? Deere? I hear crickets. The asshole can't even be bothered to make a statement about the teacher strike in his own home town of Scranton!

To give some credit where it's due, though... he at least gave the Kellogg workers some weak lip service the other day. He stopped short of using the term 'scab', but at least he's kinda trying to look like he's trying:

I am deeply troubled by reports of Kellogg’s plans to permanently replace striking workers from the BCTGM during their ongoing collective bargaining negotiations,” Biden said. “…I have long opposed permanent striker replacements and I strongly support legislation that would ban that practice.

If the democratic party wants my continued support, they need to do a lot more, but this is a good first step from Biden.
 

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