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That article says the catcher tagged the runner but that's not very clear at all.
Not clear, though the catcher did charge forward (0:04 mark) and his glove with ball was near the batter, then he turned and looked at the umpire while pointing down towards the running batter. Ump makes some vague motion, then catcher runs to pitcher. It's possible the catcher thought he tagged the runner, and had confirmed the out with the umpire.
 

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The umpire's motion isn't vague. It's a "safe" call. But by the time he makes it, the catcher has already started running away from him.

The important thing is that he never said "out", which makes everything that follows the catcher's fault. You can just assume you've made a play, you have to hear the words.
 

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The umpire's motion isn't vague. It's a "safe" call. But by the time he makes it, the catcher has already started running away from him.

The important thing is that he never said "out", which makes everything that follows the catcher's fault. You can just assume you've made a play, you have to hear the words.
Yeah, there is a clear "safe" signal, but I don't know why and I had earlier stopped when the catcher's head starts to turn to the pitcher, and at that point, the ump hadn't yet made the motion. He did, though, earlier make the out signal. Which is also the signal for strike. The out and strike call should not be the same movement. Especially for this specific instance. It was third strike, the pitcher gets the K, but because the ball was dropped, the runner wasn't out (7-umpire-signals-every-baseball-fan-needs-to-know).

Not sure why he made a safe call (his other arm is cut off from view, but it was moving into the safe call motion, so it looks like he did make a safe call). He was supposed to make a dropped ball call at that moment as the runner wasn't safe at first at that point.
"the signal used to indicate the third strike is by pointing with the right hand and arm out to the side using no voice."

But, yeah. As I already noted, the defense really fucked up. You never assume anything. You do what you need to do then if you want to celebrate, argue a call, whatever, you've already done what you needed to do. (that's also one of the reasons I hate watching a pitcher watch the ball rolling on the line when it's clearly not going to go foul, and by staring at the ball and not picking it up, the runners ar emoving, an potentially scoring; yeah, maybe picking up the ball when they pick it up will get the ump to call it foul, but that's a heck of a lot better than starring at the ball, not picking it up, runners score, and it then is called a fair ball - "A ball in the infield may start out fair and then roll foul. For this reason some defensive players may decide to let the ball roll foul if they think they can't get the batter out. They may also try to field the ball quickly and get the batter out before the ball can roll foul. Even if the ball goes back and forth between being fair and foul, it will not be ruled as fair and foul until it stops or a player touches it." - that's also a reason someone would intentionally not catch a foul ball, because once caught, the ball is now live, and if there are runners on base, they can now attempt to advance, and the person who caught the ball might not be in position to get the runner out. I have seen runners on base advance on foul ball outs, but I've never actually seen a player intentionally not catch a foul ball. Instead I see them stare at a ball rolling around the ground and continue staring at it instead of picking it up. The bloody ball might roll foul, yes, but the defender might also get the ball and throw out the runner before they get to first by picking up the ball. Infield foul is not foul/fair until ball stops rolling, defender graps the ball, etc. ).
 

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Not sure why he made a safe call (his other arm is cut off from view, but it was moving into the safe call motion, so it looks like he did make a safe call). He was supposed to make a dropped ball call at that moment as the runner wasn't safe at first at that point.
The home plate umpire waved safe at the plate because the batter/runner (as far as he was concerned) wasn't put out at the plate. He just makes the sign to make it clear the runner isn't out yet.

You'll occasionally see the sign made in different contexts but it always means a call in favor of the batter or runner - for instance, occasionally in the majors you'll see a moment where a batter will check his swing on a ball, the umpire will call a ball or a strike, and then either the batter, the catcher, or the pitcher will appeal the call to the first or third base umpire (depending on what side the hitter is on), to make a judgement on whether the batter's swing fully crossed the plate. The base umpires don't have some special sign for this, they just give a regular "safe" or "out" sign, but in that moment the "out" sign isn't saying the batter is out, it's saying that yes the batter made a full swing so it's a strike (or no he didn't, so it's a ball).

I've found this video of a montage of dropped-third-strikes and it looks like the home umpire giving a safe sign after the strike sign doesn't always happen, but it happens a few times:

 

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Jomboy's breakdown of the dropped-third-strike loss includes a review of the whole inning, which I hadn't seen until now, and....lol, man, it wasn't just as bad as not understanding that call. The losing team went into that game with a solid lead and lost it on a whole bunch of mistakes:

 
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Apparently some shite is going down in the "sport" of golf here in the states.


The PGA Tour and LIV Golf, the insurgent league bankrolled by billions of dollars from Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund, said on Tuesday that they had agreed to a merger, ending a bitter and costly fight for supremacy of men’s professional golf that had divided top players, everyday fans and corporate sponsors.

The merger represented the most stunning success to date of Saudi Arabia’s ambition to become a player in global sports. Yet unlike its purchase of a Premier League soccer team or its sponsorship of events as diverse as boxing cards and Formula 1 auto races, its billion-dollar play for control of golf seemed from the start like nothing less than an attempt to seize control of an entire sport — one that in the United States has occupied a rarefied place in the sports firmament for more than a century.
LIV Golf had sparked a crisis for the PGA Tour, which has scrambled to reinvent its economic model as it has watched some of its biggest stars switch circuits. But LIV itself has also been a target of fierce criticism, immense skepticism and bitter litigation. Although much about the circuit’s operations remains unclear — many documents that would reveal details are under court seal — some information about its structure and its operations has emerged in legal filings, interviews, business records and internal documents reviewed by The New York Times. And some LIV critics contend that the sovereign wealth fund is using sports to distract from Saudi Arabia’s record of human rights abuses.

Now, by merging with the PGA Tour, LIV Golf has gained a foothold that guarantees it outsize influence in the game’s future after a long struggle to break through, especially in the United States, where the PGA Tour has long dominated men’s professional golf. The governor of the Saudi state entity bankrolling LIV, the Public Investment Fund, will become chairman of the new golf organization, which was created so quickly that it was announced before it even had a name.

Too soon?
 

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Jomboy's breakdown of the dropped-third-strike loss includes a review of the whole inning, which I hadn't seen until now, and....lol, man, it wasn't just as bad as not understanding that call. The losing team went into that game with a solid lead and lost it on a whole bunch of mistakes:

I saw something kind of like this many years ago. A little league game, where a boy was so happy to hit a home run, he was congratulated by his team and failed to actually finish running the bases, haha.
 

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I saw something kind of like this many years ago. A little league game, where a boy was so happy to hit a home run, he was congratulated by his team and failed to actually finish running the bases, haha.
That must've happened quite a lot! When I was a RL kid I actually played little league, and whenever someone on the team got a home run and everyone went out to congratulate him our coach was always very adamant that we let him step on the plate before crowing around him.

I never hit any home runs. Stealing bases was my thing. :p
 
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Australia cancels 2026 Commonwealth Games due to projected cost overruns


“What’s become clear is that the cost of hosting these games in 2026 is not the $2.6 billion which was budgeted and allocated… it is in fact at least $6 billion and could be as high as $7 billion.

“I’ve made a lot of difficult calls, a lot of very difficult decisions in this job. This is not one of them. Frankly, six to seven billion for a 12-day sporting event, we are not doing that. That does not represent value for money, that is all cost and no benefit

“We will instead deliver all and more of the legacy benefits in housing, sporting infrastructure, tourism and we will unpack all that tomorrow and throughout the week.”

The premier confirmed that the state government had been in discussions with the Commonwealth Games organisers last night, but refused to speculate on the cost of terminating the hosting agreement.

“I’m not here to apologise for not spending seven billion dollars,” he reiterated.
 
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Women's World Cup has begun! Being an American, I'm always hyped for the Women's World Cup because it's one of the few soccer tournaments that Team USA performs consistently well in - and in fact, this year USA are the defending champions! It also helps with watchability that this tournament is being hosted jointly by Australia and New Zealand in already-existing stadiums that weren't explicitly built with slave labor but that's just a "me"-thing.

USA's first match was yesterday against Vietnam and they won 3-0 which is good although Vietnam didn't play a super great game, they never seemed to have enough nerve to try anything offensive, it was just all defense. Maybe they were intimidated.
 
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Women's football isn't that popular yet in Europe, compared to the men's football.
We are making progress though.
Thursday USA - The Netherlands. I ain't gonna watch, not that I'm not interested, but it starts at 3:00 in the night our time. The score and a small overview will do when I wake up during a breakfast show.
 

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A draw. I can live with that. If both the USA and NL win their last games they will both enter the next round.
Hopefully for the USA they will end first in this group, because for the group winner the matches in the next rounds are scheduled on more or less American prime time TV hours.

For NL it doesn't really matter at what times the games are scheduled. It is never even near our prime time. 9 In the morning at best.
Praise the forces that the Olympics are in Paris next year.
 
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A draw. I can live with that. If both the USA and NL win their last games they will both enter the next round.
I can live with that draw too, proper respect to the NL team! I'd lay odds both NL and the USA will enter the next round.
 

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This year's Formula E season draws to a close this weekend, with the final two rounds taking place in London. The title fight is a three-way contest, with Avalanche Andretti's Jake Dennis leading Envision Racing's Nick Cassidy and Jaguar TCS Racing's Mitch Evans. Last month, the series held a race here in the US on the opposite coast of its traditional home in Brooklyn. Formula E did something outside its comfort zone, holding a race at permanent road course—Portland International Speedway. And as Ars found out, it was a good decision; this leafy race track with its volcano backdrop felt like a much better venue for Formula E than a humid parking lot next to the Hudson River.
 
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