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This isn't specifically a Star Wars thing; but it is just incredibly baffling how obsessed Hollywood is with crushing dynamic range. It does not make any intuitive sense and I don't think I've ever seen anyone who is responsible make an argument for the point behind this stylistic choice.

In a technical sense, filming in HDR and then flattening the contrast like this would be like filming in 4K and then downscaling to 1K or even standard definition for release.
 
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(As opposed to "Brooding batman who would likely kick a puppy because of how brooding and dark he is, because . . . they killed his parents!" Emo-Batman would hold a bleeding puppy to his chest, crying, while dark streaks of mascara ran down his face;
This is clearly Emo-Batman.

not sure what Goth-Batman would do, possibly hail Satan and eat the puppy - I do not know enough about Gothness to know)
That's Death Metal Batman.
 
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Is there some fake conspiracy thing with Mayim Bialik? All I can find searching isnsomething about calling it Single Jeopardy, but a few times I have come across something about something "bad" with her but its extremely clickbaity looky and I am not polluting my social signals following that shit.
 

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Is there some fake conspiracy thing with Mayim Bialik?
This Rolling Stone article should be negligibly clickbait-packed.


I think Bialik's celebrity, being tied to the Hollywood bubble since childhood, has led her into a slightly askew, though not necessarily whacko level, set of beliefs regarding medical care, parenting and feminist principles. She's intelligent and well educated, but we've all seen how even the smartest of us can be drawn down
paths that lack a certain scientific validity. I would label her a bit eccentric, but not crazy. Certainly not anything near the Qanon levels we've come to expect from a lot of her right-leaning acting peers.
 

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This isn't specifically a Star Wars thing; but it is just incredibly baffling how obsessed Hollywood is with crushing dynamic range. It does not make any intuitive sense and I don't think I've ever seen anyone who is responsible make an argument for the point behind this stylistic choice.

In a technical sense, filming in HDR and then flattening the contrast like this would be like filming in 4K and then downscaling to 1K or even standard definition for release.
I'm not even sure they needed to up the contrast that much. You could probably retain more detail and get a better shot just by upping the value on the colors. I mean, if I was in light room tweaking this, that's what I would do.

I'm just a hobbyist long exposure night photographer, but my process is to take a shot, and flatten it like the shot on the left, because that's how you pull blown out detail from a RAW image. Then I go back for more passes, and on each pass I do things like up the saturation, and tweak the lights, and darks, and colors, and maybe tweak noise if I have to (I'm doing long exposures with ISO 100, so if there's noise I fucked up the shot so bad I should probably just delete it). When I edit, I get all the detail I can, and then destroy some of the detail, in order to make the colors pop. I try not to do anything too extreme with my photos, because I still try to get them to come out of the camera as close to what I want as possible.

This is one of my most processed shots, before and after. The top shot is after editing, the bottom shot is before editing. I had to put this online to show other photographers who want to evaluate my skill, because they are always asking how much of my stuff is in the camera and how much is photoshop. Yes, that's me. No, I can't prove it was me, because I'm blurry, because it's a 30 second long exposure in -10 degree wind chill, with the wind howling, at like 3 AM. The light quality was gorgeous that night, though.


Anyway... looks to me like Hollywood is shooting the film basically in a format that is analogous to RAW, so they can de-saturate to pull out detail, just like I do in my first pass, but then they don't bother going back and deciding how much detail they want to give up for some color. They just decided color is not important, and they want all the detail, because they are stupid. Either that, or maybe their editors are all color blind.

I think Disney movies are the worst with this. Not just Star Wars, but most of the MCU films are really bad with this. Shang Chi is a recent notable exception. I loved the cinematography on Shang Chi, on all levels, not just the color grading.

To my mind, this is a totally different issue than hiding bad action sequences by putting the action in the dark, and using shaky cam, and quick cuts, so nobody knows what's going on. I think the most recent Mortal Kombat was the worst with that shitty technique.
 
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I find it amusing that for picture, Hollywood wants all this flatness, but for Audio, they can't manage to not bounce wildly between 0db for basic conversations and 1000db for any action or music scores constantly.
 

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This Rolling Stone article should be negligibly clickbait-packed.


I think Bialik's celebrity, being tied to the Hollywood bubble since childhood, has led her into a slightly askew, though not necessarily whacko level, set of beliefs regarding medical care, parenting and feminist principles. She's intelligent and well educated, but we've all seen how even the smartest of us can be drawn down
paths that lack a certain scientific validity. I would label her a bit eccentric, but not crazy. Certainly not anything near the Qanon levels we've come to expect from a lot of her right-leaning acting peers.
Thanks. I am not sure why I couldn't get anything along these lines to come up.
 

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This is one of my most processed shots, before and after. The top shot is after editing, the bottom shot is before editing. I had to put this online to show other photographers who want to evaluate my skill, because they are always asking how much of my stuff is in the camera and how much is photoshop. Yes, that's me. No, I can't prove it was me, because I'm blurry, because it's a 30 second long exposure in -10 degree wind chill, with the wind howling, at like 3 AM. The light quality was gorgeous that night, though.
You wanted it to look like a picture from an early two-color-process magazine that's been sitting in a warehouse for 80 years?
 
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I find it amusing that for picture, Hollywood wants all this flatness, but for Audio, they can't manage to not bounce wildly between 0db for basic conversations and 1000db for any action or music scores constantly.
1000 db would be a compression wave so powerful it would create a black hole that would swallow the universe. Decibels are a logarithmic scale. Each 10 db is a factor of 10 in sound energy. So 1000 db is 10^90 power louder than a nightclub 1 meter from the speaker. But yeah, some movies push the limits of my speakers.
 

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There's a new Pixar movie out who's main character is a 13-year-old girl who writes fanfiction of herself with characters she likes, and a lot of mostly adult men are online complaining about the movie because they're adamant that's not something 13-year-old girls do, a claim that a lot of former-13-year-old-girls are disputing.
 
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1000 db would be a compression wave so powerful it would create a black hole that would swallow the universe. Decibels are a logarithmic scale. Each 10 db is a factor of 10 in sound energy. So 1000 db is 10^90 power louder than a nightclub 1 meter from the speaker. But yeah, some movies push the limits of my speakers.
Something something hyperbole :p
 

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Context:

There's a new Pixar movie out who's main character is a 13-year-old girl who writes fanfiction of herself with characters she likes, and a lot of mostly adult men are online complaining about the movie because they're adamant that's not something 13-year-old girls do, a claim that a lot of former-13-year-old-girls are disputing.

Its like Fanfiction.net and the concept of "Self insertion"/Mary Sue fics have not existed since forever.
 

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My brother and I made up these long complicated stories about exploring the outback with a variety of characters from Australian kids TV shows of the time. I was like 8 or 9 and we'd find a patch of bush in a park and act them out. Never occurred to us to record them but I'm sure if there was an Internet in the late '60s we would have.
 

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What did poor Sharon Stone do that she has to hoxk these stupid slot machine apps in TV ads?
 

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What did poor Sharon Stone do that she has to hoxk these stupid slot machine apps in TV ads?
Haven’t seen those, but I’ve seen her lately in another ad here. I just can’t think of it now, but she’s kind of flirting with a younger guy and it makes me cringe. Anyway, go her if it helps pay the bills…
 

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My guilty pleasure lately are reruns of Escape to the Country from BBC (CBC Canada and I think Prime for U.S.)

Goog God Almighty! All those beautiful homes. Makes me wanna cry.

I’m always shocked when most of them choose not to pick one. WTF people! They found you the perfect place, under budget and amazing! By the end of the show, I’ve already chosen, bought, and redecorated one of the houses, not to mention repaired and repainted the guest house/barn, bought a goat (donkey?), and planted an apple tree.