Gachas to be banned in Second Life

Ayesha

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I had a feeling I should pop back into the forums after a year or so of almost never reading. Once again, Linden Lab has taken an ax to a major source of income for creators in SL, and they’ve gone about it in the most boneheaded way possible.

I understand that there are regulatory reasons behind banning gacha, but people could have been given more time and alternatives put in place to support business owners. I don’t share the glee others are expressing at the loss of a fun game that helped support creators in a very competitive and difficult market. I was never really into gacha, but I have a friend who loves it and we enjoyed playing together at the Fantasy Faire and other events and trading items with each other. It was a way for us to connect even though we live far apart geographically and are often busy with our respective careers and life challenges. It brings back fond memories and I know she'll be sad when I share the bad news.

I joined Second Life believing that it could be an amazing platform for both creativity and business. I hoped it would be a way for disabled people like me and others with limitations to build friendships and make money. It is to some extent, and it has changed my life for the better overall. I met some of my best friends because of SL and that made it all worthwhile. But I'll never forget a conversation I had with a woman who sold me a grandfathered island about 10 years ago. She said she was leaving because Linden Lab was too incompetent to create a stable platform technologically and policy-wise for doing business. This was after the OpenSpace/Homestead price increase and gridwide revolt, but before the forced relocation of adult content, before the cancellation of nonprofit discounts, before LL bought SLExchange leading to a huge drop in demand for land, and before they wrecked skill gaming. I wish I had never invested in more regions or games or any other SL business after that conversation, because she was right.

I've made money in SL over the long run, but nothing compared to what I would have if I had spent that time and effort starting a business on the regular Internet. I have gone on to do so and it has been much more successful with less bullshit to deal with. Google search is the Linden Lab of the internet, as it too is unpredictable and can skyrocket or tank your business with one algorithm change, but at least there are other ways to market and reach customers.

Linden Lab has always been its own worst enemy, and some of us will never trust them again, because these kinds of things just keep happening over and over. It seems that anything truly profitable in SL gets shut down or destroyed by arbitrary pricing and rule changes, and every time they have to ban something for legal reasons, it is handled in the worst way possible. And there's always a group of people cheering at the misery of inworld businesses they hate because Evil Capitalists Made Money. Never mind that said evil capitalists are running small businesses by real world standards and even Anshe Chung is no more than a pimple on Jeff Bezos' butt.

I always hoped some other virtual platform would come along and offer a better alternative, but so far they've failed spectacularly despite the low bar set by LL. So in the meantime I'll be the old lady (in SL years) sitting on my virtual porch warning the young'uns with the same advice I didn't listen to 10 years ago. SL is a great place to meet people, explore amazing environments, create art and play dress-up, but don't start a business. It's high risk for low reward and you can make more money with the same skills as a video game developer, e-commerce store owner, artist on Patreon, musician live streaming on social media etc.

SL will probably continue chugging along without gachas (though who knows what will be the final straw for a shrinking userbase), but it's part of a pattern long-term SL residents can't help but see. And some of us have moved on because we know the way LL handles change is never going to change. Closing my SL business right now would take more effort than keeping it open, and I still make a small amount of money, but the moment that is no longer the case, I'm out. I've learned from history and I hope others do too.
 
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'Surely, the increasing tide of government regulation against massive, multi-million dollar gaming companies for predatory practices will not spook my small Silicon Valley operated niche game.' says the Gacha creator, nervously, for the 20th time this decade.
 

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'Surely, the increasing tide of government regulation against massive, multi-million dollar gaming companies for predatory practices will not spook my small Silicon Valley operated niche game.' says the Gacha creator, nervously, for the 20th time this decade.
In fairness those AAA game companies know exactly how predatory they are being. They have legal teams to audit their code and make sure they are doing everything by the books.

Little Agatha McResident just put her little cute deer meshes in a box with a script she didn’t write and has no idea what it actually does.

Can’t blame the predatory behavior on her specifically.
 
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No, you can't. But this is not a surprise and has been coming for years, the warning signs of a future crackdown have been there for ages and the smart money would've been on getting into things that did not leave you dependent on a business model that tread perilously close to the splash zone of regulatory drives.
 

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Can I buy gachas with bitcoin?

Wouldn't surprise me if someone tries it.
Do the ToS forbid you to give rewards in SL for purchases on 3rd party sites? I think they do not. (Though if it became a major thing LL might react, legaly though I think LL would be off the hook).
 

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Do the ToS forbid you to give rewards in SL for purchases on 3rd party sites? I think they do not. (Though if it became a major thing LL might react, legaly though I think LL would be off the hook).
You can set up your own website to receive payment for SL items and accept any form of currency you like. Totally allowed. Sounds like a big pain to maintain, though.

I don't know anyone who seriously uses crypto. I know many miners, and many who invest like it's a stock market.

But actual users? Not a single one.
 

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Do the ToS forbid you to give rewards in SL for purchases on 3rd party sites? I think they do not. (Though if it became a major thing LL might react, legaly though I think LL would be off the hook).
I always wondered why nobody did this to keep gambling going, or non-nerfed skill gaming. Buy tokens on a third party site, use them to play games in SL, cash out on third party site. Or use L$ to buy credits, cash out winnings in USD or crypto on third party site. Or the pachinko method: play game or machine owned by one account to win useless tokens that another account will gladly buy from you. I considered doing something like this years ago but it was beyond my tech abilities and I figured LL would find some way to kill it.

Someone could also create a machine where you pay for known items, then exchange them for "free" random items from another machine. Not sure if that would fly but SLers are creative so we'll see what happens.
 

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But actual users? Not a single one.
According to FBI reports Silk Road users on the TOR network did. It also appeares to be asked for in ransomware attacks. Not the kind of transactions I'd like to be associated with. To be honest it isn't suited for everyday use. The tulip bubble deflation it suffers from IMHO makes it totally useless. Say you want to accept Bitcoin for your pizza delivery... you would have to update your prizes daily or you run into the risk of charging 50$ for a slice of pizza tomorrow (or 5c after the bubble bursts)
 

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You can set up your own website to receive payment for SL items and accept any form of currency you like. Totally allowed. Sounds like a big pain to maintain, though.

I don't know anyone who seriously uses crypto. I know many miners, and many who invest like it's a stock market.

But actual users? Not a single one.
I "used" Crypto exactly once to buy a new desktop. I don't know if that counts for "used". Back in 2014 or something I bought $5 in DOGE as a joke, when it was a joke, then basically cashed it out on Newegg back when it peaked out this year. Mostly Crypto is bad for the environment and all that and I never had any intention of being "into" crypto, so I figured it was a good excuse to get out of it.

I have a small amount left over and I sometimes wish I had a way to turn it into L$. Also i should have just bought a monitor to go with the PC with it, since the price plummeted to nothing again after the peak.
 
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In fairness those AAA game companies know exactly how predatory they are being. They have legal teams to audit their code and make sure they are doing everything by the books.

Little Agatha McResident just put her little cute deer meshes in a box with a script she didn’t write and has no idea what it actually does.

Can’t blame the predatory behavior on her specifically.
This is somewhat true. I can't blame people who just weren't paying much attention. But if you can't make as much money selling your goods the honest way, then that frankly validates the belief that gacha's are predatory.