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Sid

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If anything can go wrong, it will. - Murphy
If anything can go wrong, it already has. ~Murphy's little sister
 
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So reddit or youtube are not social media by your definition? You pick the discussion channels you like or you can like a creator but there are no friends lists or any way for someone to follow me as a non creator.
You can follow people on Reddit and YouTube.
 

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Social media has the concept of followers and followings and friends, this is the foundation of it. Discussion is the foundation of a forum.
The first social media had nothing of that. What it had was people being social in discussion groups.
 
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You can follow people on Reddit and YouTube.
You can but it's not the main focus of the platforms. I use reddit and youtube all the time and I don't follow any person.
 

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The first social media had nothing of that. What it had was people being social in discussion groups.
Ah but did it start out as social media or as discussion groups with the social aspect coming a little later on once people got to know other a bit?
 

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Discussion groups are inherently social. You can't separate "the social aspect", because that's what it's all about.
 
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Discussion groups are inherently social. You can't separate "the social aspect", because that's what it's all about.
That's kind of my point. You can have a discussion group without being social (friends) but you can't really have a social group without discussion (talking). I discuss things with people all the time without socializing with them.

I mean, I've never been in a book club but what's the point of discussing the book with the group if you haven't read it? Cliff Notes don't count. lol

Maybe I'm just splitting hairs but to me there is a very noticeable difference between forums and social medias. While they both can serve the same purpose, they aren't the same thing.
 

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You can have a discussion group without being social
I really don't think you can. People aren't wired that way. Even on reddit... where supposedly people aren't supposed to notice who they're talking to because they don't have avatars or permanent identities or any of those "social cues"... people associate with people they know. People are social. You have to work really hard to keep people from socializing, and even on forums like SpaceBattles where the mods will suspend and ban you for social chat in storyboards it's not 100% successful.
 

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I never found a forum or discussion group so far, where regulars don't share more from time to time, than the actual subject where the forum or group was created for.
Threads go of topic because of that, forums have off topic sections for that etc.
So yeah, IMHO forums are a sort of social media.
 

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I forget Reddit has avatars and profiles, because I use old.reddit and don't use the official mobile app, but at least once a week I get random compliments on my Avatar on my "main account". People notice them.
 

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I really don't think you can. People aren't wired that way. Even on reddit... where supposedly people aren't supposed to notice who they're talking to because they don't have avatars or permanent identities or any of those "social cues"... people associate with people they know. People are social. You have to work really hard to keep people from socializing, and even on forums like SpaceBattles where the mods will suspend and ban you for social chat in storyboards it's not 100% successful.
Huh. I've been doing it my whole life. Reddit does have avatars. I don't think you can change your user name. Not easily. I have yet to see anyone really being social on Reddit.

It's not hard to keep people from socializing. Especially if you start them young like my family did. I don't think you'll ever be able to understand what I'm saying without ever having been isolated (except for school) the first 18 years of your life. People seem to find it quite easy to exclude me from socializing.

Never heard of SpaceBattles. If the rules say no social chat in storyboards and people are socially chatting, they're breaking the rules so that's not an analogy that will work on me.
 

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Aww, I just meant you're up for the challenge...
The challenge was to not be isolated. I lost every battle and the war. I never had a chance.

What challenge do you mean? Dammit. Not only have I lost my box of round tuits, I seem to have misplaced oh look! 🦋
 
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Huh. I've been doing it my whole life. Reddit does have avatars.
They only show up on posts in the new reddit and everyone still uses old reddit.

I don't think you can change your user name.
Sure you can, you just lose your imaginary internet points. People do it regularly.

Not easily. I have yet to see anyone really being social on Reddit.
There's a lot in the subs I follow.

Never heard of SpaceBattles. If the rules say no social chat in storyboards and people are socially chatting, they're breaking the rules so that's not an analogy that will work on me.
It's not an analogy, it's an example.
 

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I was joking around Argent's point that you have to "work really hard" to do it.
oh. lol

I didn't have to do anything other than exist. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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