Democratic Party Presidential Candidates for 2020

[GoblinCampFollower]

Russiagate. It was a win everything or lose everything strategy. It failed. Cue The Price Is Right loser music. It did nothing but strengthen Trump. We're doomed.

His approval rating barely moved. It's not clear that it strengthened him or hurt him. People who liked him before, think he is exonerated. People who didn't like him before, think he obstructed and made a fool of himself. It may not have strengthened Trump, but I think it did hurt a lot of media outlets who tied their credibility to the claim that Trump was a Russian spy. ...so I guess you are right in an indirect sense. Some of his enemies hurt themselves.

Vote the Dem nominee in 2020...

We aren't the ones you have to convince. Voting for a good candidate in the primary will affect if anyone outside the base votes for them.

 

[Zaida Gearbox]

So far - Elizabeth Warren is the only one in the pack that Hubman and I would think about voting for. I am entertaining the idea of switching my affiliation to Republican for the primaries, so I can vote for the guy running against Trump. But, I also want to be able to vote for Warren in the primaries because I'm worried that the Democratic base is going to put somebody up who will make moderates recoil in absolute horror - and you can't win without the moderates.

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

Again, as an indie voter, who knows a decent number of other indie voters... most of us know that for president, we usually con't vote for a third party candidate. Exceptions being, living in a very blue state, where it doesn't make a difference, or living in a very red state, where it doesn't make a difference. Because the electoral college is basically legal vote rigging, by design.

I still don't vote 3rd party anyway, even though I've usually lived in a red state where it didn't make a difference, because I'm naive like that. I still like to think my vote matters, even when it doesn't seem to, and I vote accordingly.

 

[Zaida Gearbox]

As much as Dems currently hate the electoral college - without it Abraham Lincoln would have never come president. I just wish it wasn't a winner take all in most states. I think Maine is the only state where it's not.

 

[Clara D.]

I am a bit surprised Its not for anyone else in the thread.

Wut? I suggest you re-read post #746

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Wut? I suggest you re-read post #7446

ClArA iS fRoM tHe FuTuRe.

 

[Clara D.]

But the Dem Base is at present smaller than the Trump Base. If that does not change a lot,

Hence my broken-record "widest appeal" comments.

 

[Clara D.]

ClArA iS fRoM tHe FuTuRe.

Clara's keyboard needs a few new switches, notable '2,' '4,' and '-'

 

[Clara D.]

it is as simple as teaching a kid how much one plus one is in Kindergarden.
Want to get rid of Trump?
Vote the Dem nominee in 2020,
no matter who he/she is,
no matter what the polls say,
no matter where you live,
no matter who is your personal favorite.
If there are large numbers who want to see Trumptydumpty fall of his wall, but still think that they can vote on a third party candidate or stay home and don't need to vote at all, then Amreica deserves a second term from the orange baboon. Sorry to say so. Then no lesson is learned from the last elections.

My concern is the primaries and getting someone in that even non-D's might vote for. We'll likely need all the people we can get to vote Not-Trump.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

I still don't vote 3rd party anyway, even though I've usually lived in a red state where it didn't make a difference, because I'm naive like that. I still like to think my vote matters, even when it doesn't seem to, and I vote accordingly.

I can relate to this viewpoint. I live in a deep blue city that is within a deep red state. I feel guilty for the times I threw it away, even though my vote is objectively worthless. I'll vote for the democrat nominee, but I view it as an absurdist gesture.

 

[Clara D.]

AZ is historically Very Red. I mainly vote for local stuff, where my vote might make a difference because the Electoral College BS doesn't apply. Though I'll also at least try to get a "good" D in the primaries.

We at least have Kyrsten Sinema., so maybe some day this state will turn around. (But I won't hold my breath)

 

[Pamela]

Wut? I suggest you re-read post #746

Oops

 

[Clara D.]

Oops

Just making sure you're not alone

 

[Pamela]

For those who find polls interesting, here are results from a few:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-holds-a-slight-advantage-over-nearest-2020-rival-but-democrats-are-far-from-making-a-decision/2019/04/27/7749e8c2-66d8-11e9-a1b6-b29b90efa879_story.html?utm_term=.3cb9027da6fe

 

[Beebo Brink]

Biden holds a slight advantage now but I'm fully expecting it to slide. It will slide because up until now people have held vague nostalgic feel-goods about the Obama-Biden era. But now that he's actually thrown his hat in the ring, people are going to be listening to what Biden says, not just giving him a free pass. Bear in mind that Biden has a long history of gaffes, even at the best of times. These are not the best of times for old white men who are lagging a few steps behind the culture shifts of the past decades.

Painting Joe Biden as the presumptive Anti-Trump candidate, with over a year to go, is just begging for a kick in the teeth. And my bet is on Joe doing the most damage to himself.

 

[Sid]

The new Dem nominee should ideally be (relatively) young, dynamic and above all charismatic.
The White House should not be in competition with Shady Palms, nursing home for the elderly.

 

[Pamela]

Biden holds a slight advantage now but I'm fully expecting it to slide. It will slide because up until now people have held vague nostalgic feel-goods about the Obama-Biden era. But now that he's actually thrown his hat in the ring, people are going to be listening to what Biden says, not just giving him a free pass. Bear in mind that Biden has a long history of gaffes, even at the best of times. These are not the best of times for old white men who are lagging a few steps behind the culture shifts of the past decades.

Painting Joe Biden as the presumptive Anti-Trump candidate, with over a year to go, is just begging for a kick in the teeth. And my bet is on Joe doing the most damage to himself.

This early, as those polls show, a lot of people barely know the candidates’ names. History shows that this early on the leading contenders often wound up seeming very unviable in retrospect. Joe Leibermam, Howard Dean.

 

[Soen Eber]

The election is 18 months away and playing poll games this early is like standing on a greased pig and hoping you don't fall off.

 

[Porsupah Ree]

The election is 18 months away and playing poll games this early is like standing on a greased pig and hoping you don't fall off.

Would that be a poll dance?

 

[Zaida Gearbox]

You know what? No vote is worthless. What if all the Obama voters in Virginia had stayed home in 2008 or even in 2012 because Virginia *always* went Republican before that?

Even if a sizable number of people write in or go third party - if it's a big enough minority it still sends the message of - stop running shit candidates because eventually you'll get a 3rd party candidate who will cause a real upset if you don't.