Warren says DNC system was rigged in Clinton's favor
They did coopt a name but that is only part of the problem: political labels shift over time. Both Ds and Rs would not recognize their own parties of even 50 years ago, and 100 is barely the same species.
Is that map even right? Warren is not even on it plus both her and Bernie probably have more donors on the east coast than in the middle of the country.He's in a much different position now than he was against her, as he's much better known now, thanks to the fact that he's been pretty much campaigning ever since the last cycle. He's the only candidate that has more donors than Trump and of the Democrats, he's the only one with over 1M individual donors. In the polls, he's the candidate people trust the most on a number of issues. Why are those not indicators that he can beat Trump? Because neoliberals say so? Because the sore loser who won't take responsibility for her loss says so?
which links to: Detailed Maps of the Donors Powering the 2020 Democratic Campaigns
You have to take him out to see where the rest of the field was, and he was nearly double his closest competitor (Warren). Why are those facts meaningless?
Yes the map is right. If you go to the linked article and look at the other maps that they have included then you can see where she shows up. And this is old information, several months old when he only had a bit above 750k donors, and led her by 300k+ donors. I did say that you had to take him out in order to see where the majority of the rest of the candidates were.
Yep, yep. That or the whole "nazis were really left wing you can tell because they called themselves socialists" bit of intellectual dishonesty are when I usually roll my eyes and mentally check out of the conversation...
Of course she had to walk it back later on, to please the people promoting the fiction that Tulsi quitting the DNC, DWS leaving in disgrace and the stuff in Donna Brazile's book didn't happen.
Yes, but a respected Law Professor and US Senator would never publicly make such claims without firmly arriving to that conclusion. It's not an acceptable boo-boo. She really can't put on a Michele Bachmann wig and stay believable on this.
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This is a thing that actually happened. HRC paid the DNC $20M, getting them out of the debt Obama left them in from 2012, in exchange for control over staffing, message and funding during the primary. During the fucking primary. Additionally, no matter where you think the "hacked" emails came from, they document what was already clear to those who weren't HRC sycophants: the DNC, under DWS, HRC's former campaign chair, sabotaged the Sanders campaign. Two of the participants in those email exchanges apologized for their role, not at all suggesting the emails were fake. Additionally, there was this, in which the Hillary Victory Fund PAC and other "bundlers" were used to route contributions in excess of legal limits back to the DNC for use in support of HRC's campaign, instead of ending up with the state parties. 99.5% of monies intended for state parties were routed back to the DNC. Ninety nine point five percent.
You mean the people who got banned from Facebook for inventing Russian bots, the same "source" the media are using to say that Tulsi Gabbard is being supported by the Russians?
Yeah, them. Trusted by congress to provide intelligence on Russian meddling, too.
Jesus fucking Christ you people are exhausting.This is a thing that actually happened. HRC paid the DNC $20M, getting them out of the debt Obama left them in from 2012, in exchange for control over staffing, message and funding during the primary. During the fucking primary. Additionally, no matter where you think the "hacked" emails came from, they document what was already clear to those who weren't HRC sycophants: the DNC, under DWS, HRC's former campaign chair, sabotaged the Sanders campaign. Two of the participants in those email exchanges apologized for their role, not at all suggesting the emails were fake. Additionally, there was this, in which the Hillary Victory Fund PAC and other "bundlers" were used to route contributions in excess of legal limits back to the DNC for use in support of HRC's campaign, instead of ending up with the state parties. 99.5% of monies intended for state parties were routed back to the DNC. Ninety nine point five percent.
These are things that actually happened. Your continued insistence that this is Russian propaganda tells me that it is you who are compromised by propaganda. American plutocratic propaganda comes from accent-less pretty heads on tee vee, so we like American plutocratic propaganda.
I can almost respect not wanting to come to terms with these things in light of other things being very wrong with 2016, but FFS if you're going to throw around charges of being Russian stooges, learn the whole damned story.
I respect her activism, especially regarding hurricane victims and I‘m not going to engage you in what is clearly an attempt to engage in racist “my POC individual negates your points about broader norms” tokenism bait. Go fuck yourself.
