#BYEDON 2020 - The End Better Fucking Be Near

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Many of the writers of the Constitution were members of the various State governments and not a few had been charged with crimes by British authorities in the years before and during the American Revolution.
 

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More stochastic terrorism from the "law and order" exiled king.


“The country is in a very dangerous position. There is tremendous anger, like I’ve never seen before, over all of the scams, and this new one, years of scams and witch hunts, and now this,” Mr Trump told Fox News Digital.
Making nice with Fox now? I thought they were out after publishing the last election results.

Mr Trump said that Americans are “not going to stand for another scam” as the unsealed search warrant revealed that he’s being investigated for obstruction of justice and possible violations of the Espionage Act, as well as other offences.
Not going to stand for....This is a call to his cult to commit violence.

Mr Trump said he hasn’t heard back from DOJ concerning his offer to help cool things down. He said there had been “years of fake witch hunts and phony Russia, Russia, Russia schemes and scams”. “Nothing happens to those people who perpetuate that, nothing happens with them,” he said. “And then they break into a president’s house, a sneak attack where it was totally, no one ever thought a thing like this would happen.”
EX-president. Sneak attack? In June his team claimed to have turned over all classified documents, despite not having done so. Hardly a surprise then, when they came for the rest. His lawyer was present and Trump, himself, watched on CCTV.

Mr Bolton told The Times that secure areas to view classified documents were put in place at Mr Trump’s residences in Florida and Bedminster...
Why would there need to BE a reason for him or anyone to continue to view top secret classified documents?

“People are so angry at what is taking place,” he said, adding that “the temperature has to be brought down in the country. If it isn’t, terrible things are going to happen”.
He certainly hopes so. He would burn down this country to save his skin.
 
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Why would there need to BE a reason for him or anyone to continue to view top secret classified documents?
More to the point, why would there even be a need for "secure areas to view classified documents" if, as he claims, all of the documents had been declassified?
 
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Yes, with FAR less evidence than they probably have on Trump at this point.


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After reading the act, I'm not so sure it shouldn't be overturned. It seems like it's used more to prosecute whistleblowers than it is to prosecute traitors. OTOH, I think they can only prosecute for treason if we are at war.
I'll get caught up, so if someone already said this. IIRC, its not specifically 'war' but if we have enemies. What I do wonder if 'Enemy' includes domestic ones as well, in which case, oh-boy...
 
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Nope. I still have my old ones .
Yup. When I applied for mine, because I was born overseas and actually had a W. German birth certificate + document of natural born citizenship from the US Government, that wasn't enough so I had to send them my mom and my dad's birth certificates, and my mom also found the passport I first came to the states with at 6 months [or was it 6 weeks?] old, so sent that in too. Of course, I placed mine and my dad's BCs somewhere -safe- so can't find them.... but I'm sure as we organize stuff, it will all show up.
 

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More to the point, why would there even be a need for "secure areas to view classified documents" if, as he claims, all of the documents had been declassified?
FWIW I think the "secure areas" were set up during his actual presidency, when he spent so much time at his personal properties instead of at the actual White House. He had to be given his briefings and notices at these places while he was there, so they needed to create a space where presumably the confidential materials could be shared and looked at without unauthorized people peeking.

While he was president I'm sure these areas would've been checked regularly by whatever inspection team is responsible for that kind of thing to make sure they stayed secure, but once his term was up I don't think the federal government continued to maintain them, so they probably aren't meaningfully "secure" anymore.
 
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Since the F.B.I. served a search warrant on Mar-a-Lago, there’s been a bunch of arguments flying around that the Justice Department should not press an aggressive case against the former president. These arguments are based on prudential reasons: Trump has always claimed attacked by the “Deep State,” so it will make his supporters feel like the government is persecuting them, it will inflame them leading to violence (it already has), and it will create a terrible precedent where a Republican administration feels licensed to use the national security state against their political opponents. Then there are more political arguments, like this will consolidate the Republicans behind him again and may resurrect his political career from apparent decline. There’s also another hesitation I’ve actually felt, too: what if the F.B.I., not always the most trustworthy or competent institution, doesn’t really have much and it ends up looking kinda thin? But my answer to all these concerns is increasingly, “Enough of this bullshit, already.”
 

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Why did Dump have 3 passports? I thought when you renewed your passport you turned your expired on in?
People who travel a lot will often have more than one valid passport (duplicate of the original) because they have to actually send a passport with an application for many visas.

This means that they would not be able to travel during the time they are trying to get a visa, which can often take as long as six months depending on the country. At one time, I had more than one US passport for this reason.
 
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