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Will BoJo still be the clown PM of the UK tomorrow?

He seems determined to hang on as long as possible.


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The 1922 Committee, which represents backbench Conservative MPs, has brought forward its elections for the new Committee forwards to next Monday, when a new executive is expected to be installed with a majority to change the rules to permit a second challenge to Johnson's leadership, which they are expected to do as soon as possible and then hold a vote sometime next week.

It's certainly fascinating to watch.

Something else that emerged today which shouldn't be forgotten


ETA: He's just fired Michael Gove.

 
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I don't quite understand it.
What would happen now in this situation if Labour were to move a motion of no confidence in Johnson in Parliament?
That's possible, isn't it? Could the Conservative MPs with their majority prevent a vote in parliament?
Because they don't want to vote against their own PM? But on the other hand many conservative MPs want to ge rid of Johnson, as it seems. How would that look to the public that they are incapable of solving the problem with their own PM or only with Labour's help?
Would a new election then be due?
And I read that most Conservatives don't want a new election because they fear losing their parliamentary seat. Is that the reason why the Tories see no way to get rid of Johnson?
 

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I don't quite understand it.
What would happen now in this situation if Labour were to move a motion of no confidence in Johnson in Parliament?
That's possible, isn't it? Could the Conservative MPs with their majority prevent a vote in parliament?
Because they don't want to vote against their own PM? But on the other hand many conservative MPs want to ge rid of Johnson, as it seems. How would that look to the public that they are incapable of solving the problem with their own PM or only with Labour's help?
Would a new election then be due?
And I read that most Conservatives don't want a new election because they fear losing their parliamentary seat. Is that the reason why the Tories see no way to get rid of Johnson?
The Conservatives are trying to get rid of him, to the extent that they're in the process of changing their rules to allow this -- because the Parliamentary Conservative Party held a vote of no confidence in him only two weeks ago, which he won, in theory he can't face another such vote for a year, but the Conservative Party committee that makes the rules on such matters is holding its regular elections for a new committee next Monday, and it's expected the new committee will, as soon as it's elected, change the rules and call another no confidence vote, to be held probably on Tuesday or Wednesday.

So it looks as if he'll be removed next week, but let's see what happens.

Labour could move a vote of no confidence in Parliament but Conservative MPs would oppose it because they want to remove Johnson themselves and continue with a new leader, elected over the summer.

I can see their point of view -- they've got a huge majority, and it seems extraordinary that things are in such chaos only two and half years after their huge victory, but that's Boris Johnson for you.
 

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I like how Johnson says that he simply can't resign now because if he did "there would be chaos". My dude...
 
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Oh wait. Mark this one "inconclusive". Johnson has allegedly agreed to resign but wants to 'stay on' until a replacement is found, presumably several months from now, by whatever process that will happen. I don't know what sort of work he imagines he's going to get done without a cabinet, but that's prolly down to me not knowing exactly how UK government works.

Like, I'm still a little mind-blown about the whole idea that when a PM is elected and appoints his cabinet, the opposition party leader also "appoints" a "shadow cabinet" full of "shadow ministers" whose actual jobs, apparently, are literally just to give press statements criticizing the actions of their "real cabinet" counterparts as all wrong and explaining how they would be making totally different and much better decisions "if we were the ones in charge".
 

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I don't quite understand it.
What would happen now in this situation if Labour were to move a motion of no confidence in Johnson in Parliament?
That's possible, isn't it? Could the Conservative MPs with their majority prevent a vote in parliament?
Because they don't want to vote against their own PM? But on the other hand many conservative MPs want to ge rid of Johnson, as it seems. How would that look to the public that they are incapable of solving the problem with their own PM or only with Labour's help?
Would a new election then be due?
And I read that most Conservatives don't want a new election because they fear losing their parliamentary seat. Is that the reason why the Tories see no way to get rid of Johnson?
A thread by a leading expert in Constitutional Law

 
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