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Read the full thread, please, about Jacob Rees-Mogg, another Brexit grifter and cosplayer who, like Johnson, no writer would invent as a character, since if they did he'd be dismissed as too obviously a parody

He doesn't like bananas? He's younger than me and doesn't use a computer? Well I suppose I can overlook...wait...cheap chocolate? Right then, off to the Tower he goes.
What kind of childhood must he have had to turn out that way.
 
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Read the full thread, please, about Jacob Rees-Mogg, another Brexit grifter and cosplayer who, like Johnson, no writer would invent as a character, since if they did he'd be dismissed as too obviously a parody

After reading all that, you can't trust me is what I got from it.

I don't like curry.
I prefer baths to showers most of the time.
While I have cut way back on sugar consumption, I still use some on my cereal, depending on the cereal.
I don't care for most "foreign" foods mainly because I can't eat a lot of it because spicy.
I love cheese.

See, you can't trust me. :bawl:

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I had to keep reminding myself he was talking about Boris and not Trump. 🤔🤭
 
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The UK is about to get rid of the right for asylum. The new to be introduced law implements the following order: first bring back the ayslum seekers back to where they came from or close enough, then work on validating their case. The House of Lords still has to agree to the law, but this is bound to happen. The new law will be a violation of the Refugee Convention as well the European Convention on Human Rights. This new law is basically Nigel Farage's and right wingers dream come true.

The legislation before parliament, if it becomes law in its present form, will in effect extinguish the right to seek asylum lawfully in the UK. This would tear holes in the international protection regime for refugees — protections we helped create in the wake of the second world war and the Holocaust, and which we are pledged to uphold.

 

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The House of Lords still has to agree to the law, but this is bound to happen.
Is it? The Lords (including right wing Conservative peers, like Michael Howard, a former leader of the Conservative Party) are very unwilling to break international law, as the government discovered over the Northern Ireland Protocol.

Everyone here (including, I would imagine, HMG) is expecting the Lords to throw out the bill, or at least its most objectionable aspects, meaning it can't be re-introduced for a year. That would effectively kill it, since it would run into the General Election.

ETA: The background to this is that, because of the long delays to lorry traffic caused by Brexit, asylum seekers no longer arrive invisibly on the back of lorries and slip away into the Kent countryside but arrive very visibly in small boats. Furthermore, since we're no longer in the EU, it's far more difficult to send failed asylum seekers back to EU countries they travelled through than it was before we left (this was pointed out at the time, but no one seemed interested, because unicorns, and anyway they'd had enough of experts).

The government rather rashly -- well, rashly if you believe promises should be kept, which Boris Johnson obviously never did, and neither do a lot of his colleagues -- to reduce immigration, both legal and illegal, and both have gone up since Brexit, so their answer to illegal immigration is to show their supporters they're doing something about it by introducing a law that they know has no chance of getting through the Lords, but that doesn't matter, because come the next election, they'll be able to say "We tried, but the lefty lawyers, judges and the woke House of Lords wouldn't let us."

Then, they hope, as does everyone else, they'll lose the election and it'll all be someone else's problem.
 
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When the poll figures last looked like this, during Liz Truss's brief tenure, the Conservatives looked headed for electoral disaster, with the modelling predicting a net loss of almost 300 seats were the election to be held them.

We were told after Sunak took over that the Conservatives' fortunes would improve, though I think only the most optimistic Conservative seriously thought that the question was whether Labour would win an outright majority or would have to form a minority government.

But now, with no more than 18 months, at most, to go before the next election, and with high interest rates affecting millions of home-owners (a demographic whose support is crucial to the Conservatives) and little respite in sight, an extinction-level event looks ever more likely for them.
 
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We were told after Sunak took over that the Conservatives' fortunes would improve, though I think only the most optimistic Conservative seriously thought that the question was whether Labour would win an outright majority or would have to form a minority government.
One thing that may be significant is that Gerard Lyons has been out in the open blaming Bank of England for the British economical problems. He may have personal reasons for attacking BoE but this is of course exactly the narrative Sunak wants to push so it's more likely he's acting as a covert spokesperson for the government and directly involved in and influencing their financial policies.

For those not familiar with Dr. Lyons, he's one of those "voodoo economists" the right wing loonies use to justify their "steal from the poor and give to the rich" ideas. According to his followers, Lyons is especially respected for his skills in predicting future trends (he predicted among other things that food prices in the UK would drop like a stone the moment Brexit went through).

More important in this context though is that he was one of the chief architects behind Truss' financial policies and his only criticism of Truss and Kwarteng is that they went too fast. In his opinion they should have done it gradually to keep people from noticing until it was too late. "Trussism" on a slow burn, that seems to be Sunak's plan too.
 
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One bit of good news


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Farage, 59, said that the “only explanation he could think of” for the decision was a claim made by Chris Bryant, the Labour MP, in the Commons that he had received nearly £550,000 from RT.

“I simply point out that Nigel Farage received from Russia Today £548,573 in 2018 alone – from the Russian state,” Bryant said in a debate on Russian sanctions.
Farage, who has categorically denied Bryant’s claims, said that losing his bank account was the equivalent of being a “non person”. He added that he had no idea what he would do.
“It has certainly made me think — what does this mean for me,” he said. “No one has told me why and the only thing I can think of are the completely false claims made against me using parliamentary privilege.”

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The GB News presenter said he could be forced to relocate abroad if he was unable to find a UK bank willing to take him on.

“I won’t really be able to exist and function in a modern 21st-century Britain. I’m beginning to think that perhaps living in the United Kingdom is now becoming completely unliveable because of the levels of prejudice against me,” he said.
 
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Rishi Sunak praised the collaboration with an oil company funded think tank on the law which was created in the UK to crackdown climate protests.

 

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“I won’t really be able to exist and function in a modern 21st-century Britain. I’m beginning to think that perhaps living in the United Kingdom is now becoming completely unliveable because of the levels of prejudice against me,” he said.
He can comfortably relocate if necessary unlike the bulk of the British population that are nosediving into first world poverty level living. Gosh he may have to eat half as much caviar while living on the French Riviera for the rest of his life. Everybody else can stay in GB and eat cake.
 
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He is very cheap?
Still a No?
Damn, you all became a bunch of party poopers over the years.
Always America first, even among the Dems.
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Okay, final offer: You get fifty of the European finest politicians, like the frog, Boris, Wilders and more... and you even can keep Trump.
 
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Okay, final offer: You get fifty of the European finest politicians, like the frog, Boris, Wilders and more... and you even can keep Trump.
Are you allowed to be selling off UK pols?