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The big picture is that tomorrow is a general election for the House of Commons, that polls are not to be trusted and anything is possible from Tories are getting a majority up to Corbyn might become prime minister.
I need a bigger picture. How does that make the UK separating from Europe look?
 

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I am no fortune teller; you'll just have to wait until the election is over, we do know the results and then we can talk again about it.
 
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I guess I shall have to do my research outside of VVO. I was wondering what this election means for whether the UK leaves the EU.
 

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I guess I shall have to do my research outside of VVO. I was wondering what this election means for whether the UK leaves the EU.
If the Tories get an outright majority, then Johnson's plan is likely to go through. Any other result leads to a probable defeat of the exit deal and _______________ ?
 

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I guess I shall have to do my research outside of VVO. I was wondering what this election means for whether the UK leaves the EU.
Even if the pro-Brexit MPs will gain a huge majority tomorrow, not much is clear. It is only clear, that the UK leaves the EU, but not under which conditions and circumsstances. and how the relations between uk and EU will be. With a deal or without a deal, and this deal must be negotiated still, especially the important trade relations between uk and Eu. A lot of people fear that there is not time enough to come to a result within the transition period.. and the UK will fall back to the General agreementi of Tariffs and Trade of the WTO[/QUOTE]
 
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In general, BBC isn't stopping you or anyone else overseas watching their content because of licence fee issues but because another company -- HBO or whoever -- has the US distribution rights for whatever it is you want to watch.
Live events, like the news and sporting events? Nope. Lots of archival stuff? Not all of it.
 

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The justification for the licence fee is that it enables the BBC to concentrate on quality programming rather than chasing ratings, though frequently the Beeb seem to forget this and go head to head with ITV.

If the licence fee goes, the BBC would presumably become a subscription-only channel, and doubtless it would be a very good one, but that would render it inaccessible to the poorest members of the viewing public, which some people might consider a shame.
I just looked up the numbers and even for a B&W license the fee is more than some existing popular streaming services. Or are that many people exempt from the fee?
 

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Live events, like the news and sporting events? Nope. Lots of archival stuff? Not all of it.
Live sports are most certainly covered by national distribution rights. There's big money involved -- British pub landlords have to pay a fortune to Sky Sports for a licence to show their live coverage of major Eritish premiership and international matches.

I was once involved in a case where a landlord had found some device (or been able to buy one that enabled him to pick up the signal from the Dutch Sky Sports coverage, since when he was discovered, Sky reported him to the police for fraud (which is what it was) and, while I don't remember the sums involved after all that time, the amount he should have paid UK Sky Sports for showing only a very few -- single figures -- live matches in his pub on a big screen ran into the high thousands.

In any case, most of the stuff you're going to want to watch on the BBC is the sort of thing where distribution rights are likely to be an an issue, and even when it isn't, I don't see what advantage the BBC would gain from devoting time and effort to tweaking their site so that it can decide anything more complicated other than "If the person who wants to access this broadcast seems to be in the UK, then proceed to next test, otherwise, if the request is from outside the UK, that's a potential minefield, so safest to stop right here and refuse" rather than getting into "Where does the request come from, and what's for, and what, if any, distribution deals are there between the BBC and someone else that cover the requested programme for that particular country?"
 

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I just looked up the numbers and even for a B&W license the fee is more than some existing popular streaming services. Or are that many people exempt from the fee?
No, but have you compared how much the BBC spends overall on original programming vs how much the content broadcast by some existing popular streaming services costs them?
 

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No, but have you compared how much the BBC spends overall on original programming vs how much the content broadcast by some existing popular streaming services costs them?
As I understand it, they and ITV both own part of britbox, which operates in both the UK and the US. All they would need to do is move anything into its library that is missing (except for where there is a licensing issue) and add their live streams. They could even raise the britbox price a bit if need be and drastically reduce their broadcast facilities.

The TV lisense fee SOLELY goes to paying for BBC content, right? It would probably be cheeper for people since the license fee would be going away. After all they would already have a TV to watch it on and an internet hookup is basically non-optional in a modern country. Maybe you have a case if it is an old TV, but even then you could get a cheep set top box for a tenner.
 

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My cable provider offers BBC1, BBC2, BBC First and BBC World News in their basic package.
No doubt they have to pay the BBC for that service. And the Dutch end users will pay that as a part of their cable subscription.

BBC is not Santa Claus Network.
Bills have to be payed.
TV stars and star reporters don't come cheap.
There is no such thing as a free lunch.
Distribution rights are complicated.
 

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What do other european countries think about the situation in the UK?
The comments in the European newspapers today are not very flattering , not very hopeful about the situation today in the UK.

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“The country is moving into a new era,” wrote Cathrin Kahlweit in a leader for (the german) Süddeutsche Zeitung, a broadly left-leaning broadsheet. “It will become more insular, cultivate a less civil form of patriotism, inflict more harm on minorities. Necessary reforms – a new electoral law, a written constitution, better public services – are likely to be postponed.”


The centre-right broadsheet Die Welt wrote that Johnson’s promise to “get Brexit done” would “blow up in his face”. It added: “He keeps quiet about the fact that the hard part [of the negotiations] only starts after the withdrawal.”

 
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the german Spiegel publishes:
the Soundtrack for the election-night in the UK lol

"If you can't rely on anything anymore in the UK, then pop music still remains. Listen to ten songs for the British election night, from The Who to Oasis, from Slowthai to The Smiths."

for example

 
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I just looked up the numbers and even for a B&W license the fee is more than some existing popular streaming services. Or are that many people exempt from the fee?
The TV lisense fee SOLELY goes to paying for BBC content, right?
The TV licence pays for content across NINE national TV stations, as well as additional localised regional TV content and an internet-only station (BBC3).

It also pays for TEN national radio stations and FORTY local radio stations across the country (you can listen to these without a licence, but the license pays for them).

And it pays for the website as well.


 

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There is such a thing as a licence fee for radio only. You can't even listen to a radio legally without a licence
 

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There is such a thing as a licence fee for radio only
No there isn't.

You can't even listen to a radio legally without a licence
Yes you can.

A licence is not required in the UK to listen to any radio station, BBC or otherwise.

The cost of running BBC radio is covered by the TV licence, but you can listen to radio legally without owning one.
 
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