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Or "Does my hand smell like poo?"
 

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I can understand the reluctance of Jo Swinton, the leader of the Lib Dems, to support the idea, since almost all the potential Lib Dem gains in any forthcoming General Election (which are likely to be substantial) will be seats currently held by Conservatives in London and the South and West of England, as Conservative supporters who either support Remain or (probably a larger subset) are horrified at Johnson's misconduct as Prime Minister either vote Lib Dem or abstain.

So she is going to want to do all she can to reassure Conservative supporters they can safely vote Lib Dem and to neutralise the damaging allegation -- deployed very effectively in 2015 and 2017 -- that a vote for the Lib Dems is effectively a vote to give the Labour leader the keys to Downing Street.

I've seen the idea floated that Corbyn might voluntarily decline the offer and, instead, step aside, while remaining as Leader of the Labour Party and support another, more widely acceptable, Labour politician -- Dame Margaret Beckett has been suggested -- as PM of a Government of National Unity in order to secure an extension, followed soon after by a General Election in which Corbyn would lead the party and hope to become PM after a Labour victory.

Time will tell, of course, but I think that's the background to Swinton's apparent misgivings about the idea, just as it probably explains why she was so welcoming to the Tory defector Dr Phillip Lee recently, despite the outrage this caused among LGBPT+ Lib Dem activists and supporters, several of whom quit the party in protest.

So I wouldn't rule out a Labour-led GNU just yet, or even one led by someone like Ken Clarke.
 
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It doesn't get any better....

Hammond's article in The Times to which the article refers begins thus:

For the first time in 35 years I am not packing my bag to travel to the Tory party conference tomorrow. The party I joined as a student and first campaigned for in the 1979 general election is suffering a convulsion that makes it — for now at least — unrecognisable to me. Gone is the relaxed, broad-church coalition, united by a belief in free-trade, open markets, fiscal discipline and a fear of the pernicious effects of socialism, but tolerant of a wide range of social and political opinion within its ranks. In its place is an ideological puritanism that brooks no dissent and is more and more strident in its tone.

Boris Johnson asserts, ever more boldly, that we will leave the EU on October 31, “with or without a deal”. But as his sister has reminded us, he is backed by speculators who have bet billions on a hard Brexit — and there is only one outcome that works for them: a crash-out no-deal Brexit that sends the currency tumbling and inflation soaring. So they, at least, will be reassured to see no evidence at all that his government has seriously pursued a deliverable deal; still less that it has been pursuing a deal that could get us out by October 31. The time available means that the only deal with any prospect of delivering that outcome is the deal that they have already rejected and that many of them have voted against.
Philip Hammond: I no longer recognise this party of radicals
 
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The significance of this worrying trend has not been adequately reported, to my mind:

 
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Seems this one hasn't been paying attention since Thatcher.
I remember Margaret Thatcher's period in office all too well, including the Falklands War, the Belgrano, the Miners' Strike, the Poll Tax riots and all the other delights she brought us.

I never thought I'd say this, but it seems a political golden age compared to what we have now.
 

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Btw, am I the only one who gets this strange feeling things aren't quite going Boris Johnson's way at the moment?
Well, considering he seems to want to be donnie and the news this week .....
 

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Hammond's words are pretty harsh, but clearly deserved. They wont impact on the Tory party at all though as he has been an ideological outcast since May took over. He is now so far outside of what is now the norm within the party that not one single member will give a damn about his thoughts.
Well, some of the Parliamentary Party do, by all accounts, and are pretty near the point at which they'll walk too. I think how the next few weeks go is crucial to a lot of things.
 

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Looks like Johnson is trying to whip up fears of rioting in order to claim the threat of potential riots justifies declaring an emergency before they happen so he can suspend the Benn act.
 
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I remember Margaret Thatcher's period in office all too well, including the Falklands War, the Belgrano, the Miners' Strike, the Poll Tax riots and all the other delights she brought us.

I never thought I'd say this, but it seems a political golden age compared to what we have now.
Yes. Over here, Nixon would be a flaming liberal by today's standards.