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Bernie Sanders reminds southerners of Colonel Sanders, of fried chicken fame. He was an old plantation owner stereotype. Not the kind of messaging you wanted for black people in the South.
 
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Bernie Sanders reminds southerners of Colonel Sanders, of fried chicken fame. He was an old plantation owner stereotype. Not the kind of messaging you wanted for black people in the South.
Wait what?!

I'll cover the other end. I am surrounded by southerners, of all types - some have a problem with his 'Socialism' but none have suggest this angle even once.
 

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Probably sheltering in place right now. It would be horribly irresponsible of them to hold campaign rallies right now.
I agree with that but they could be releasing videos that people would share the hell out of on social media. I keep getting Texts from Bernie people wanting me to do stuff, and I'm like what fucking planet are you people on?
 

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A lot of these people were never going to vote for bernie, they just needed an excuse to vote for trump so they can make it a performative "you made me do this" show of it, like you forced their hand and they can be clean of blame.
Yup. Everything about the Trump cult is about the psychology of the abuser. From that point of view, actions like this make sense. They don’t care about actual real democratic socialists, or the powerful, or Bernie himself, or anything really. It’s all narcissism, all the time.

Malignant narcissism is the real problem in our politics.
 
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I agree with that but they could be releasing videos that people would share the hell out of on social media. I keep getting Texts from Bernie people wanting me to do stuff, and I'm like what fucking planet are you people on?
Bernie has held multiple streams the past couple weeks.
 

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I’m waiting for *anything* about this story to not be contradictory or deceptive. He didn’t hire “Weinstein’s damage control team.” He hired one woman (Anita Dunn) who worked in Comms in the Obama admin (thus why he has an existing relationship with her). She provided minimal advisement to Weinstein that was limited to one of his projects being tangled up in an AIDS charity. She refused to take payment for it and her company made it pretty clear she wasn’t doing it for him. But FOX and the right had a field day making it seem like a former Obama staffer was defending Weinstein. Watching that get parroted for anti-Biden propaganda illustrates to me exactly how unserious these people are about the real issue.
 

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Want to know why Bernie is losing? Here’s his Press Secretary an hour ago:



1. Harris is advocating for our current unprecedented crisis against a completely unhinged GOP that is killing people with their incompetence and trying to make a buck off it.
2. Harris supports M4A (and, in my opinion her plan was better than Bernie’s or Warren’s).
3. Harris is the ONLY candidate that made an issue of the health issues faced by black women.
4. Harris’ mother died of cancer.

So what was this for? Just random trolling because any sitting Dem is fair game to get attacked for being “establishment.”

it’s amateur. It’s desperate. And it’s a problem with his entire toxic team.
 

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I’m waiting for *anything* about this story to not be contradictory or deceptive. He didn’t hire “Weinstein’s damage control team.” He hired one woman (Anita Dunn) who worked in Comms in the Obama admin (thus why he has an existing relationship with her). She provided minimal advisement to Weinstein that was limited to one of his projects being tangled up in an AIDS charity. She refused to take payment for it and her company made it pretty clear she wasn’t doing it for him. But FOX and the right had a field day making it seem like a former Obama staffer was defending Weinstein. Watching that get parroted for anti-Biden propaganda illustrates to me exactly how unserious these people are about the real issue.
And all I get are eyerolls.

The only thing I have seen said is "shes a russian asset!" along with silence and a lot of tweet deleting.

I'm not saying it's true but you'd think they'd say something concrete about it, unless I've missed something.
 
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And all I get are eyerolls.
Because the information in the tweet was intentionally deceptive. The eyeroll was for the deception, not necessarily you.

The only thing I have seen said is "shes a russian asset!" along with silence and a lot of tweet deleting.
I don’t know if she’s a Russian asset, but she’s really, really susceptible to Russian propaganda. She is a crazy huge Putin fan and Assange apologist. She has changed her story multiple times and made countless contradictory claims. She went from bragging about how much she admired Biden to the current story of assault. She went from expressly saying she was never sexualized to this. She’s had three different versions of why she left her position. She lied about Time’s Up turning her away. And, listening to how she explains the assault happening doesn’t make sense to me. Unfortunately, because she’s already brought her own credibility into question my benefit of the doubt is pretty narrow.

Also, she knows that because she shopped the first version of her story around to every news outlet when the Biden story broke last year, it creates problems for any outlet that previously published her because libel applies if they publish a story they know to be false. But she (and other opportunists) are painting this as “being silenced.” And her trying to scrub all the past writing that contradicts her current statements looks really bad.

I could go on. But, really, sincerely, the more I look into this the more I’m hoping for her sake either this actually does go away quietly if she’s lying or other women come forward if she’s telling the truth. Victims can absolutely be problematic and still be victims, but this woman is a walking red flag.

Personally it pisses me off that a bunch of BernieBots are using her to weaponise “Believe Women” as if that movement was invented to mean “believe women blindly.” That shit is disgusting.

I'm not saying it's true but you'd think they'd say something concrete about it, unless I've missed something.
Who is “they?“
 

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Because the information in the tweet was intentionally deceptive. The eyeroll was for the deception, not necessarily you.


I don’t know if she’s a Russian asset, but she’s really, really susceptible to Russian propaganda. She is a crazy huge Putin fan and Assange apologist. She has changed her story multiple times and made countless contradictory claims. She went from bragging about how much she admired Biden to the current story of assault. She went from expressly saying she was never sexualized to this. She’s had three different versions of why she left her position. She lied about Time’s Up turning her away. And, listening to how she explains the assault happening doesn’t make sense to me. Unfortunately, because she’s already brought her own credibility into question my benefit of the doubt is pretty narrow.

Also, she knows that because she shopped the first version of her story around to every news outlet when the Biden story broke last year, it creates problems for any outlet that previously published her because libel applies if they publish a story they know to be false. But she (and other opportunists) are painting this as “being silenced.” And her trying to scrub all the past writing that contradicts her current statements looks really bad.

I could go on. But, really, sincerely, the more I look into this the more I’m hoping for her sake either this actually does go away quietly if she’s lying or other women come forward if she’s telling the truth. Victims can absolutely be problematic and still be victims, but this woman is a walking red flag.

Personally it pisses me off that a bunch of BernieBots are using her to weaponise “Believe Women” as if that movement was invented to mean “believe women blindly.” That shit is disgusting.


Who is “they?“
The they are joe bidens team or him himself.

Like put out a statement or anything, again unless I missed it.
 

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Because the information in the tweet was intentionally deceptive. The eyeroll was for the deception, not necessarily you.


I don’t know if she’s a Russian asset, but she’s really, really susceptible to Russian propaganda. She is a crazy huge Putin fan and Assange apologist. She has changed her story multiple times and made countless contradictory claims. She went from bragging about how much she admired Biden to the current story of assault. She went from expressly saying she was never sexualized to this. She’s had three different versions of why she left her position. She lied about Time’s Up turning her away. And, listening to how she explains the assault happening doesn’t make sense to me. Unfortunately, because she’s already brought her own credibility into question my benefit of the doubt is pretty narrow.

Also, she knows that because she shopped the first version of her story around to every news outlet when the Biden story broke last year, it creates problems for any outlet that previously published her because libel applies if they publish a story they know to be false. But she (and other opportunists) are painting this as “being silenced.” And her trying to scrub all the past writing that contradicts her current statements looks really bad.

I could go on. But, really, sincerely, the more I look into this the more I’m hoping for her sake either this actually does go away quietly if she’s lying or other women come forward if she’s telling the truth. Victims can absolutely be problematic and still be victims, but this woman is a walking red flag.

Personally it pisses me off that a bunch of BernieBots are using her to weaponise “Believe Women” as if that movement was invented to mean “believe women blindly.” That shit is disgusting.


Who is “they?“
As a woman who has been actually been a victim, I -really- hate women like this [especially if they aren't really victims] because they make it harder when their lies come to light, for real victims.
 

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The they are joe bidens team or him himself.

Like put out a statement or anything, again unless I missed it.
You missed it.They released a statement a couple days ago:

Women have the right to tell their story, and reporters have an obligation to rigorously vet those claims,’ Deputy Campaign Manager and Communications Director Kate Bedingfield said on March 27. ‘We encourage them to do so, because these accusations are false.’
 

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As a woman who has been actually been a victim, I -really- hate women like this [especially if they aren't really victims] because they make it harder when their lies come to light, for real victims.
Honestly, in this case, the more I look into her past and read her writing, the more I’m worried she’s an unstable person being exploited into thinking she’s doing the right thing for “the cause.”

But, yes, it‘s the kind of thing that punches you in the guts as a survivor, regardless.
 
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