Great example of graciously accepting an apology and then talking about how we need to have honest conversations. Oh wait. You ignored the apology and then talked about the post as though it hadn't happened and yet still talked about honest conversations.
I've been here since I was 3 years old, and I'm 45. I'm an American citizen, and this is the only home I know. But I don't take the position that I should obtain reparations although I think the people who have suffered through those periods should.
I'm not obligated to accept your apology, and I don't. I decided to address what I wanted to address, in the order I pleased.
As a general rule, people who embrace conspiracy narratives aren't interested in engaging in good faith discourse for any length of time.
And here you are wrong. I am not invalidating your opinion. You are entitled to it. Where I believe you are wrong is in attacking older, black voters who have lived their entire lives here, many in the pre-civil rights era. If you have not lived that life, what makes you qualified to judge them as wrong?
They're allowed to make it but I am not obligated to agree or respect it. eta: what you did was try to invalidate my standing to make the criticism.
Of course you are not obligated to agree with it, but not respect it? If things continue as they are in the primaries, you may well have to respect it, whether you like it or not.
Bernie has a long history of having horrible, horrible positions and votes on immigration. His campaign identified this and spent an enormous amount of money and time focusing on Latino voters. That same focus was nowhere when it came to black voters. In fact, his deliberate strategy was to circumvent them and soak up white votes to render them irrelevant. And now he and his cult are salty af that they got caught without a plan B when black leaders stood up and refused to let the voices of black Americans be silenced that way. Rather than recognizing this grave error and having some humility, the narrative is low information and cowardice. To the people that have had to live and fight their corner all their lives.
Why should I be obligated to respect something that I think will actively harm this country? Nope, not happening. Healthcare stocks zoomed up because Biden won. Good for him and Clyburn! They get to be comfortable while the people of South Carolina still don't even have a Medicaid expansion and are subject to the crappy marketplace patchwork of plans and high deductibles, high cost of drugs. Yeahhh, no. They don't get a pass because of their identity.
I want to address this in particular. You mean to say that he compromised in order to get something that was very important to him? We've been told over and over again that people who do that are sellouts, part of the establishment by Bernie supporters. When the hated democrats make compromises it is bad and they are corrupt, but when Bernie does it, well, he has his reasons and they are far superior to any reasons any other democrat may have held when they made a compromise.
Bernie has never said that. That's a caricature that party loyalists have created, a lie to make it seem as if Bernie is so intractable that he can't work with anyone. He has a long history of compromises to get half a loaf because it advances his values. The compromise I worry about is the one where it's done for money, like Clyburn. He compromised himself, and is part of the problem. Good for him for his personal achievements. But a good portion of his state is like a third world country.
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You really need to cut it out with this group of actors.
I don't "need" to do anything. I've stated the point of view and it would be nice if you would engage on the substance of their critiques instead of trying to invalidate standing again because they are "fringe." They may not represent all black people but their views are valid and, personally, more insightful than the people relying on Sellout Clyburn.
Specifically, their platform seems to be used solely to trash or support specific political candidates.
You are talking out of your ass. You don't know anything about what they've done. They had a conference in October and invited all the candidates to come. Only Marianne Williamson went. Just because you don't know what they are doing doesn't mean that they're doing nothing.
You don't even "need" to post here or promote or trash anyone.
LOL. Are you trying to beat my screwdriver record?
