The 2024 U.S. Presidential race

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I can understand some of you may be feeling scared about what is happening, and needing some comfort among others of the same ilk, but this gloom and doom shit isn’t only unhelpful, but toxic.

The vote blue no matter who crowd will still get out and vote, but the constant “we’re all gonna die, so what’s the use” every time something happens doesn’t quite inspire any new voters.

Anyway, I suppose I shouldn’t comment about tone and all, being from another country, but Jeeze Louise, the election is in 4 months, not next week.
 

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Honestly, I'm not sure it was going to go very well no matter what... I kind of expected Biden to do this, but am not sure of anything other than the fact that I'll vote for whoever the Dem's go with.
The main difference will be -and I don't know how likely this is or this isn't...now the GOP can potentially block the new candidate in swing states, giving the election to them.

Blue states will vote blue, red states will vote red; that is the same as before the announcement. It's the states that are up in the air that will decide the election.

Has Biden handed the GOP the election in a truly historic blunder? We'll see -I know the GOP will try to block the new candidate but I don't have any idea how good their chances of success are (specifically in swing states).

[edit]nightmare scenerio: they block the DNC candidate in blue states. 💀
 

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I can understand some of you may be feeling scared about what is happening, and needing some comfort among others of the same ilk, but this gloom and doom shit isn’t only unhelpful, but toxic.

The vote blue no matter who crowd will still get out and vote, but the constant “we’re all gonna die, so what’s the use” every time something happens doesn’t quite inspire any new voters.

Anyway, I suppose I shouldn’t comment about tone and all, being from another country, but Jeeze Louise, the election is in 4 months, not next week.
I'm queer (on record), poor and disabled. From my POV there's a great chance I'll be dead after Trump takes office.
RN I don't honestly give a rat's ass if I'm toxic or not -I'm fighting off panic.
 

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Anyway, I suppose I shouldn’t comment about tone and all, being from another country, but Jeeze Louise, the election is in 4 months, not next week.
Honestly, it might as well be next week. The deadline in many states for a nominee to be on the ballot will have passed before the Democratic Convention next month, and we have no nominee. We will effectively be locked out of several key must-win states.

Fuck the people who pushed Biden out! Fuck them all to hell!
 

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Honestly, it might as well be next week. The deadline in many states for a nominee to be on the ballot will have passed before the Democratic Convention next month, and we have no nominee. We will effectively be locked out of several key must-win states.

Fuck the people who pushed Biden out! Fuck them all to hell!
 
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The fact that everyone kind of hates this, and hates the idea of Biden continuing, because somehow Trump is still a viable candidate, tells me it doesn't matter who wins, it's not going to go well.
 

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And then you get people like THIS fucker who wants to spoil everything!

pffff, I'd be more worried about an actual democrat challenging Harris. No chance Manchin the DINO will draw much support away from her.
 

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Manchin has no support and has pissed off to many party officials to stand a chance. But he loves attention. Plus age. The one positive we have is the age issue now turns on Trump. I would like Sherrod Brown but we can't nominate anyone in their 70s at this point.
 

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So, I wonder how we move forward from here. Can we just shift the nomination to Kamala and call it a day? Will that piss off too many voters who will complain, perhaps rightly, about not having a say? Do we hold another primary? Is there even enough time for that? And what of the logistics involved in getting ballots out to everybody and getting them counted?

So many questions!
 

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So, I wonder how we move forward from here. Can we just shift the nomination to Kamala and call it a day?
Per Rachel Maddow live, right now as I type this, many state delegates are already pledging their support to Kamala Harris. She may very well have secured the nomination by the time the convention is held.

I was afraid there would be some Dem nominee free-for-all, but quite the contrary. The party seems to be pulling together really fast and supporting Harris fully.
 

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Holy frikkin' carp, people. I lurk for a few months and everything's ON FIRRRRREEEEE. Discord is exploding. Twitter and Facebook are... Twitter and Facebook. Even Plurk is going nuts. 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

The other day I listened to the latest episode of the "It Could Happen Here" podcast by Robert Evans, titled "Don't Panic," and I think what he said is worth sharing. I also agree with him on a lot of what he said.

Are things bad right now? Absolutely. As a visibly transfeminine person I'm absolutely terrified at the prospect of That Orange Asshole getting back into office, and I live in a relatively safe blue state. But we are not doomed yet, not by a long shot. The fascists are doing the mask-off, full-throated hatred routine because they know they don't have a lock on this election, even after the events of the past couple weeks. They're scared they'll lose and they will throw everything at us, hoping something works. The fascists are a very, very vocal minority, and they know it.

The fascists are desperate and they're counting on apathy, despair and fear to make us just give up. I refuse to give up. I've worked too hard to figure myself out over the past couple years - to be a happier person. I will not let them steal that from me, not for anything. FUCK THE GOP. FUCK THE FASCISTS. (and death before detransition!)

Please, don't give up. This isn't over. If you've got the spoons, please give the podcast a listen. I really think it's worth the time.


If you have the spoons/energy for it, do something locally to effect change. Find a cause and work it. Get involved with your town's politics, even if it's as simple as attending a meeting. Find other like-minded people to work with. Organize and plan. Run for something.

Most importantly, do not catastrophize over stuff that hasn't happened yet. (Robert talks about this in the podcast, too!) Focus on what you can change - again, if you have the energy. Real change in this country won't come from the top down. It'll come from the bottom up - true grassroots effort at the city/state level.

To sum up:
If we fight, we might lose.
If we give up, we will lose.
Nobody knows the future, and if somebody says they do, they're trying to sell you something.
Don't give up. Don't give in. This isn't over.