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mikka

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So I guess the primmy thingy social bollox thing has less traction? Who knew.
 

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I saw the thread title and had high hopes. But such disappointment. I can only conclude that someone thought the forums were getting dull and decided to drop a mouse in the viper pit. But the vipers can't be arsed.
One of my life goals is to be unarseable.
 

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I remember a couple of trolls who left after we gave them constructive ideas on how to improve their humor :)

We didn't even bother getting mad or angry at them, we just recognized an opportunity to help them improve.
 
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Lemme quickly spell out why I have a problem with your group, and groups like yours:

1) You're using 'brigading' to literally help residents "Cut in line" ahead of other priority incidents.

2) "Brigading" creates unnecessary duplicate work for the response team. They must manually review and link each individual ticket to a parent case for mass-closure. That's time they could have spent -helping- other users.

3) Inaccuracy: You've been quick to drop several false accusations on this thread, passing them off as if they were fact. We're not fooled.

LL on the other hand deals with volumes of tickets that make it difficult to know the people involved well enough to tell fact from falsehood. I have no doubt that you and your group have successfully brigaded some otherwise undeserving new residents who were merely being rowdy... people who might have become engaged and invested residents willing to open their wallet once they shed their 'Annoying Newbie' outer armor... but you made sure that will never happen by getting them punted early. That's not an effective way to help nourish and grow a user base. You're costing LL money.

And don't tell me you've got the patience, humor, diplomacy and thick skin necessary to 'socialize' an arrogant disruptive newbie into a more mature and empathetic resident. You had the opportunity to display it here in this thread and you've consistently gone the other direction.

Does your group provide value in other ways? Maybe, but you've already established yourself as non-credible, so I'm not taking your word for it. And I certainly don't think that your net impact on Second Life is positive. At least it wasn't when I had dealings with you in the now dim and distant past (before your time I expect).

I'm not sure what your goals were when you arrived here, but it's clear that you didn't get the reception you felt you deserved and you got hostile about it. That's not winning anyone over. Perhaps consider a different approach.
 

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I thought we were extraordinarily restrained. For instance, I don't believe the phrase "impotent badge fetishist" was used more than once or twice.
 

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stalking?. lol that isn't stalking its called research you moronic idiot you should try it sometime maybe you will learn something
This name calling disqualifies you totally to have any authority on fighting griefers in RL or SL or wherever.
You showed your true colors right here.
 

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I guess griefing still happens, but I can't remember the last time I saw or was aware of any. At one time it was a regular occurrence and a bigger part of the Second Life experience.

I figure it must have got harder to do or we have better tools to prevent it? Or the griefers have got bigger fish to fry elsewhere.

Or maybe I just don't go to the places griefers like to go.
 
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"Blah blah blah"
(Written by Nightingale.Foxpaws)
Nightingale himself was caught using scripted following prims to harass users in what appeared to be an attempt to fish reportable reactions out of people. The Green Lanterns, including members like Nightingale Foxpaws, have faced significant criticism for their controversial methods in the past and have had a negative impact within the community for as long as I have been on Second Life.

Abuse of the Reporting System

Mass Reporting Tactics
The Green Lanterns' practice of mass abuse reporting involves coordinating multiple members to file abuse reports against a single user simultaneously. This tactic can overwhelm the Second Life governance team, leading to automatic or accidental bans without thorough investigation. Many innocent users have reported being unfairly banned due to this method, which undermines the integrity of the abuse reporting system and damages trust in Linden Lab’s ability to fairly moderate the community.

Disproportionate Impact
Losing an account in Second Life is a severe penalty, far worse than typical griefing, which might involve minor harassment or disruption. An account ban means losing access to one's virtual property, social connections, and potentially significant real-world financial investments. This kind of punishment can be devastating, especially when it is unjustly administered to an innocent resident due to the Green Lanterns’ mass reporting strategy.

Ethical Violations and Power Abuse

Collusion and Manipulation
There are allegations that some Green Lanterns members might engage in or facilitate griefing activities to create incidents that justify their interventions. This tactic, similar to the controversial methods of the Justice League Unlimited (JLU), involves manipulating situations to make their presence seem necessary. This behavior is highly unethical and represents a severe abuse of perceived power, as it exploits the very issues the group claims to combat.

Misrepresentation and Overreach
The Green Lanterns promote themselves as a volunteer organization dedicated to maintaining order in Second Life. However, their actions often contradict this mission. Reports suggest that they use their status for personal vendettas, targeting users they dislike or disagree with under the guise of community protection. This additional misuse of perceived power not only violates their stated code of ethics but also contributes to a hostile and distrustful environment within the community.

Stalking and Privacy Invasion

Virtual Stalking
The Green Lanterns have been accused of virtually stalking users, tracking their online status and movements within Second Life, I happen to be one of those accusers. This invasive behavior involves monitoring when users log in and out, as well as documenting when and where residents are seen at different locations within the virtual world. Such stalking activities create a sense of constant surveillance, making users feel unsafe and violated in their virtual spaces. As of the time of me writing this they have tracked over 3,500 times I have logged in, how long I am on, and when I am on. While this might not be considered a massive issue to some I just would rather they not do that, I simply do not like it. Have an image that was sent to me:

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If you really want to look I was informed this shrine to stalking me was located here: Golden Ridge

External Databases
In addition to their in-world activities, the Green Lanterns are reported to keep external databases containing detailed information about users. This information may include personal details, behavioral patterns, and alleged violations. Maintaining such databases outside of Second Life raises serious privacy concerns, as it involves the unauthorized collection and storage of personal data. This practice is highly controversial and adds to the perception of the Green Lanterns as overreaching and intrusive.

Creating Griefers

Revenge accounts
In the past some innocent users, once banned, return to Second Life on throwaway accounts with the sole purpose of seeking vengeance against the Green Lanterns. Losing everything they care about – their virtual property, social connections, and investments – can turn otherwise nice, creative, and positive residents into determined griefers. These individuals, driven by a sense of injustice and loss, often engage in severe griefing activities targeting the Green Lanterns and the broader community. This cycle of vengeance leads to the emergence of some of the worst griefers in Second Life, exacerbating the very problems the Green Lanterns claim to combat.

Worse Than Typical Griefers

Psychological and Emotional Impact
Typical griefers in Second Life might engage in activities like spamming, harassment, or minor disruptions, which, while annoying, are generally temporary and manageable. In contrast, the Green Lanterns’ actions can result in permanent account bans, causing significant psychological and emotional distress. Victims of unjust bans not only lose their virtual assets but also face the frustration and helplessness of being wrongfully accused and punished.

Erosion of Community Trust
The Green Lanterns' methods have led to a significant erosion of trust within the Second Life community. Users fear being unjustly targeted and banned, creating a pervasive atmosphere of paranoia and suspicion. This distrust extends to Linden Lab’s moderation system, which appears easily manipulated by coordinated abuse reports. The overall community suffers as residents become wary of interacting freely and openly, undermining the collaborative and social nature of Second Life.



While the Green Lanterns in Second Life, including members like Nightingale Foxpaws, present themselves as protectors of the virtual community, their methods and actions have significant negative consequences. I myself was banned permanently due to the tactics the Green Lanterns employ until I managed to get the ban investigated by Linden Lab and my account reinstated a week later. Those that know me know I do not grief. The abuse of the reporting system through mass reporting tactics leads to unjust bans and severe penalties for innocent users. Their invasive practices, including virtual stalking and maintaining external databases, further exacerbate the harm they cause. Coupled with ethical violations and misuse of power, these actions position the Green Lanterns as more harmful than typical griefers. Not every member may exhibit the behavior outlined here but many activities of a large number of their members and leadership create a hostile environment, erode community trust, and cause considerable psychological and emotional distress to those wrongfully targeted, making them griefers of the worst kind.
 
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My main takeaway is that the lanterns do have a JLU style database (alleged, unproven, but honestly I'd be more surprised if they didn't)

The rest is pretty yawn. If a bunch of over-the-hill griefers want to sit around and watch me bounce around the grid -more power to them. I'd advise them to stock up on Rockstar; I lead a pretty boring life.
 

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If you really want to look I was informed this shrine to stalking me was located here: Golden Ridge
Not even with your dick.

...I'm not accusing you (Polyhistor) of anything, but that's a good way to expose oneself to scripted whatever-the-fuck they have set out there.

Hard pass.
 
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Ok, this thread is 30 seconds of my life I can never get back. What in the actual fuck? I know inflation is bad and it is hard out there for wannabe superheroes with SDE, but we had much higher quality drama in the past. This is not even Walmart store brand drama. Hell, this is not even Dollar General quality drama.
 
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