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That would be Tulare Lake, said to be measuring approximately 20 miles long by 3 miles wide, and is growing fast with all the recent heat causing rapid melting of the record snowfall in the Sierras, fed by the Tule and Kings rivers - both of which have overflowed their banks.

I drove down highway 99 earlier today and spotted a sign that I'm guessing had been put up during the height of the drought, that read, "(Governor) Newsom, stop dumping our waters into the ocean." Right now, I'm sure they're wishing he would. Incidentally, none of the rivers south of the Merced River empty into the ocean - that would be physically impossible. Instead, the waters are divided off into irrigation canals, with whatever is left percolating into underground aquifers. At least, that's what normally happens.
 

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...countdown till I see this article headline ripped out of context to suggest global warming is fine since the upper atmosphere is cooling...

But really, interesting article.... it never occurred to me that parts of the atmosphere would cool. Scary we just don't know the long term implications yet.
Have you seen the movie "The Day After Tomorrow"? I don't think they were too far off.
 
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Has the Planet Just Entered its Sixth Mass Extinction Event? (msn.com)

A WWF report released in October revealed a sobering statistic: in less than five decades between 1970 and 2018, the world's wildlife populations plummeted by an average of 69%. To reach these findings, researchers studied almost 32,000 populations of 5,230 vertebrate species living across land, air and water. The data set, known as the Living Planet Index, highlights the double devastation of climate change and biodiversity loss, and particularly severe declines were found in Latin America and the Caribbean, where populations fell on average by 94%.
 
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Has anyone else stopped caring about somewhat important things now that we know there really isn’t any hope in tuning the ship around? Not that we don’t have the ability, but that it just is too late. I dont care if the French language slowly disappears here, yet it continues to be a daily discussion in the news here. Traffic, sports, a président trips and falls, etc. For - against blah blah. I don’t care. Why can’t they speak about what WILL happen (not may or might)? Every day, during every news broadcast.

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The old folks who voted tory their entire lives and make quips like 'I'll spend it all before I die'. I've largely stopped caring and focus instead of all the kids in the family. I've been through a couple will readings in my life and one was based on control, another on revenge. I do not believe I can count on any of my elders and have more or less discounted them in my mental calculus in where my efforts go.

The social contract since the dawn of humans has been the generations left the campsite a little better than it was before for their kids. That contract lies torn up on the ground and in its place sits the worst reverse mortgage in history.

I still call my mum, tho. And hear about how she doesn't really like Poilievre but she'll still vote for the Tory candidate who was doing some talks or panel things with an antivax freak.

So even though my ultimate retirement plan is a tragic fishing accident, I still have reasons to live right now. Most of them are under 20 years old.
 

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Has anyone else stopped caring about somewhat important things now that we know there really isn’t any hope in tuning the ship around? Not that we don’t have the ability, but that it just is too late. I dont care if the French language slowly disappears here, yet it continues to be a daily discussion in the news here. Traffic, sports, a président trips and falls, etc. For - against blah blah. I don’t care. Why can’t they speak about what WILL happen (not may or might)? Every day, during every news broadcast.

Hopeless
Here's a post off the top of reddit's CollapseSupport. Maybe this reddit will be of use to you. <3
 
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The old folks who voted tory their entire lives and make quips like 'I'll spend it all before I die'. I've largely stopped caring and focus instead of all the kids in the family. I've been through a couple will readings in my life and one was based on control, another on revenge. I do not believe I can count on any of my elders and have more or less discounted them in my mental calculus in where my efforts go.

The social contract since the dawn of humans has been the generations left the campsite a little better than it was before for their kids. That contract lies torn up on the ground and in its place sits the worst reverse mortgage in history.

I still call my mum, tho. And hear about how she doesn't really like Poilievre but she'll still vote for the Tory candidate who was doing some talks or panel things with an antivax freak.

So even though my ultimate retirement plan is a tragic fishing accident, I still have reasons to live right now. Most of them are under 20 years old.
I’m lucky that I don’t have any super conservative folks in my family and friends, but I still have people around me who are conservative light i.e. business focussed type liberals if you know what I mean… they like to think they’re socially liberal but deep down think the “extreme leftists” (wokes who exaggerate?) are just as bad as the crazy right. They of course are the balanced middle :rolleyes: They vote for the father figure who will make them feel secure and give them easy recipes to follow to succeed in life. If you don’t make it, it’s because you didn’t follow the instructions or were lazy. Kind of like in religion.

Anyway, yeah, that’s who I keep in mind. My nieces and nephew. None of them want to have children. They +/- live in the present because their future is so uncertain. They’re in their twenties. Imagine the younger generation still in school…


(I just learned that exaggerate has two g’s)
 

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Has anyone else stopped caring about somewhat important things now that we know there really isn’t any hope in tuning the ship around? Not that we don’t have the ability, but that it just is too late.
Yes and no.

First off, although some individuals have died and will continue to die from escalating climate change -- storms, floods, drought, pandemics -- it's basically the same ills that hominids have faced for millions of years. The human race is not going to end tomorrow, most of us as individuals are not going to die tomorrow, because of climate change.

And -- unless we're really really offbase with the science of it all -- no one alive today is going to live long enough to see the full destruction of our ecosystem or possibly even of our current recognizable lifestyle. This means that we'll never confirm one way or another the (varied) predictions of scientists for the fate of the world. We'll never know the end to the story, so what sense does it make to "lose hope" for something that abstract and disconnected from our reality?

At most, the awareness of this possible future is useful for perspective; this may well be the golden age of humankind, so for god's sakes, enjoy it, savor it. Meanwhile, we have to just go on living our lives as best we can before we die of whatever totally mundane accident or disease more than likely takes us out.

Nothing lasts forever. Not our puny little lives, not our species, not our planet, not our sun.
 

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I've been seeing a lot of climate science accounts kind of trying not to freak out about this chart today. I don't know the ramifications, but it seems big.

 
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