Covid-19 vaccine thread

Innula Zenovka

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Interesting round-up of the year's conspiracy theories about Covid-19 and vaccines, with links to more detailed stories.

Good as an illustration of how things get spread and misused, often by people acting in good faith.


My inbox quickly flooded with pleas for help from people with friends or family members under the spell of these influencers.

The most striking email was from the son of a leader of Britain's conspiracy community.

Sebastian Shemirani got in touch because of his fears about his mother's impact on public health - and their relationship.

Sebastian's mum Kate Shemirani has collected tens of thousands of followers with false claims - including denying coronavirus exists, blaming the symptoms of Covid-19 on 5G radio waves and likening the NHS to Nazi Germany. She's spoken to crowds of thousands at protests in London.

"This is her five minutes of fame and when this is over, people will forget about it," Sebastian told me.

"But you know the disaster that goes on within my family and the relationships that she's losing now - that stuff stays forever."
 

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I knew my job (working with persons with disabilities) would ensure that I would get a COVID vaccine relatively quickly, but I did not expect it would be in December. Monday for me, unless something unexpected happens. I expected the second week in January.
 

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I think it was a much safer bet than that.
Yeah... I was thinking about how I can say "water is wet" too, so can I have a job as an "expert" who makes predictions?


I know some essential workers who've already had their first dose. I am 100% work from home and am very low risk, so I predict I'll have to wait quite a while.
 

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Unless there are different tiers in the UK, age alone is Tier 2 here in the US. Healthcare and other essential workers, and those with 2 or more underlying conditions are Tier 1.
 

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Unless there are different tiers in the UK, age alone is Tier 2 here in the US. Healthcare and other essential workers, and those with 2 or more underlying conditions are Tier 1.
In the UK, we use "tiers" to refer to levels of lockdown, but for the vaccine
The priority list for the first phase is as follows:

1 - Residents in a care home for older adults and their carers
2 - All those aged 80 and over. Frontline health and social care workers
3 - All those aged 75 and over
4 - All those aged 70 and over. Clinically extremely vulnerable individuals
5 - All those aged 65 and over
6 - All individuals aged 16-64 with underlying health conditions which put them at higher risk of serious disease and mortality
7 - All those aged 60 and over
8 - All those aged 55 and over
9 - All those aged 50 and over

 
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It will be a short while for me. At 60 with underlying health conditions I am in line behind health workers, the elderly, and those in convelescent (spelling?) care, but will be ahead of much of the population.
 

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Murdoch is 89, though, so surely his age qualifies him to receive it?
You may be right, although I didn't think they'd got as far as 'age-related' vaccinations yet - and how many of those people are going to have the surgery kept open late specifically for them ?
 

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You may be right, although I didn't think they'd got as far as 'age-related' vaccinations yet - and how many of those people are going to have the surgery kept open late specifically for them ?
At his age, he's #2 in the list of priorities, after residents of care homes and care workers there, as was this gentleman (two years old than Murdoch) who apparently phoned up Guy's on December 8 and they saw him the same day.


I don't know what ad-hoc alterations were made to the opening hours of wherever Murdoch was vaccinated (not clear from the report whether it was his normal GP's practice or a special centre), or why (if they had anything to do with his being vaccinated, as opposed to both him and the practice simply running late, which is hardly unheard of, after all) but I find it difficult to be too surprised or upset that the NHS was anxious to vaccinate an 89-year-old man as soon as possible.