#JAILTOTHECHIEF- Shit Just Got Real

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Innula Zenovka

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Trump has spent the last three-and-a-half years trashing the US's international reputation as a reliable partner with the rest of the world, and this is just one more example.

While obviously everyone other than the autocrats who dominate and manipulate Trump so effectively hopes that Biden will win in November, and that he will be succeeded in office by another Democrat, it's going to take everyone a very long time indeed to forget that the US once elected someone like Trump and that, after he was elected, he proved that the US's word is worth worth very little because no one in a position of power who might have been able to prove it was, and that international agreements matter to the US, even tried to stop him, or if they did, it wasn't enough.

So yes, everyone would be delighted to have the US back in the WHO, and the Paris Accords, and nuclear test-ban treaties and so on, and taking a leading role in the G7 once again, and NATO, but everyone will wonder, and not without cause, how long it'll last this time, and what's to stop the US from relapsing some years down the line and electing President Tucker Carlson or Tom Cotton or someone similar, and who in the US will even try to restrain them if that happens.
 

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...it's going to take everyone a very long time indeed to forget that the US once elected someone like Trump and that, after he was elected, he proved that the US's word is worth worth very little because no one in a position of power who might have been able to prove it was, and that international agreements matter to the US, even tried to stop him....
:qft:

Electing Trump is only part of the equation, and not even the biggest part. Our entire system of checks & balances failed, which means a majority of Congress was unwilling to stop him. That means that our government as a whole -- not just the president -- can't be trusted.
 

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:qft:

Electing Trump is only part of the equation, and not even the biggest part. Our entire system of checks & balances failed, which means a majority of Congress was unwilling to stop him. That means that our government as a whole -- not just the president -- can't be trusted.
We kind of [k]new that when McConnell refused to allow a vote on Merrick Garland's nomination. The idea that McConnell had this kind of power was never taught in my civics class.
 

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Grr ... both this and that almost all of Biden's time will be taken up with fixing a lot of the stuff the bellend broke.
Nah, appoint some people to go through all the actions of the previous administration, make a list of what needs to be undone, and serve some of it up as one big executive order. Individual agencies will have to undo regulatory changes, so someone in each agency will get tasked with coming up with a list.

If Biden really wanted to be mean, he could appoint Obama to a presidential commission to "fix our government and drain the swamp" to help with The Undoing of Trump.
 
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Nah, appoint some people to go through all the actions of the previous administration, make a list of what needs to be undone, and serve some of it up as one big executive order. Individual agencies will have to undo regulatory changes, so someone in each agency will get tasked with coming up with a list.

If Biden really wanted to be mean, he could appoint Obama to a presidential commission to "fix our government and drain the swamp" to help with The Undoing of Trump.
Unfortunately not everything. Most things are an eo, yeah, but what about judges? What about international issues?
 

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It took me a minute. After seeing two ones in there I started down a rabbit hole at first thinking it was related to the Fibonacci Sequence somehow.
 

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For some reason, I keep thinking of this famous scene

 

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Keep on keeping on.

 
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