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There really is no grey area here. A 20-year-old should know better than to try to seduce a 14-year-old. I have nothing but disgust for grown adults who try to pick up children - and, I'm sorry, but at 14, you're still a child.So we have a case of a 20 year old trying to pick up (or maybe even being pursued by) what he thought was a 14 year old. 14 has hit puberty and 20 years old is still a kid. 20 years old is still a teenager in terms of maturity. This is a grey area and shouldn't be cast in the same light as someone my age (32) trying to pick up an 8 year old.
Yeah probably but....you know, I'm not sure why that's important. Hitting puberty means you're biologically able to get pregnant, or get someone else pregnant - nothing else. I really doubt planning a pregnancy is on the minds of most adults who are seeking out kids for sexual reasons.14 has hit puberty
Really? I mean 18 and 16 maybe but 20 and 14 is quite a difference.So we have a case of a 20 year old trying to pick up (or maybe even being pursued by) what he thought was a 14 year old. 14 has hit puberty and 20 years old is still a kid. 20 years old is still a teenager in terms of maturity. This is a grey area and shouldn't be cast in the same light as someone my age (32) trying to pick up an 8 year old.
It's all about naming and shaming. That, and the hard-on these guys get from getting to "play cop".My question would be why the vigilantes are posting the results of their activities on social media rather than turning them over to law enforcement.
In the case of the young man who hanged himself, I'm not completely clear what crime he is said to have committed. I can think of several possible offences but I would need (as he should have had, of course) competent legal advice about what the elements of the alleged offences were that the prosecution needed to prove and what defences -- particularly entrapment -- might be available.
This unfortunate young man was denied both legal advIce and a fair trIal and, instead, subjected to a cyber-lynching.
Yeah I'm not sure he committed any crime either. Physically showing up to the house at all pretty clearly establishes intent I would think; but "intent" with no actual follow-through is only good enough for charges in some places, and not in others.My question would be why the vigilantes are posting the results of their activities on social media rather than turning them over to law enforcement.
In the case of the young man who hanged himself, I'm not completely clear what crime he is said to have committed.
Intent to do what? That's the question.Yeah I'm not sure he committed any crime either. Physically showing up to the house at all pretty clearly establishes intent I would think; but "intent" with no actual follow-through is only good enough for charges in some places, and not in others.
But like Katheryne said, I don't think the vigiliante really cared about whether an actual chargeable crime was committed.
It is not the felony part that bothers me, because the article's main 'predator hunter', Erdmann, has a felony based on drug charges. Same with some of the other ones mentioned in the article. I think only one 'predator hunter' had violent criminal convictions. The non-violent felony charges really have no bearing on the shadiness of this kind of internet vigilante-ism.Something about a criminal playing vigilante seems very off.
I agree that 14 is still a child. But I'm saying 20 is still basically a kid as well. Your brain isn't done growing at 20. And do we know the 20 year old was trying to seduce a 14 year old? I think these vigilante groups will approach the barely legal person, demonstrate the ability to talk like an adult, and then skirt over the fake age difference to entrap people.There really is no grey area here. A 20-year-old should know better than to try to seduce a 14-year-old. I have nothing but disgust for grown adults who try to pick up children - and, I'm sorry, but at 14, you're still a child.
That said, I also despise these self-appointed online vigilantes. Nothing good ever comes from vigilante "justice".
I agree with everything else you said except for the "20 is still a child" thing. Nah, bro, 20 is college age, your teenage years are over. I guarantee a 20 year old is less "childlike" than a 14 year old who's just starting on the puberty trail. Like, seriously...I agree that 14 is still a child. But I'm saying 20 is still basically a kid as well. Your brain isn't done growing at 20. And do we know the 20 year old was trying to seduce a 14 year old? I think these vigilante groups will approach the barely legal person, demonstrate the ability to talk like an adult, and then skirt over the fake age difference to entrap people.
This recent body of research is where I'm getting it from.I agree with everything else you said except for the "20 is still a child" thing. Nah, bro, 20 is college age, your teenage years are over. I guarantee a 20 year old is less "childlike" than a 14 year old who's just starting on the puberty trail. Like, seriously...