The US-Iran War Has Begun

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When I asked that question on April 7th, he had just said he was going to destroy the entire Iranian civilization. I was referring to more broadly needing the world to stop him. I have no idea what mechanism could be used but we didn’t know if he would actually go through with it. That kind of threat seems to be something the rest of the world needs to stand up against.
Understandable. I think there are enough people in the Senate who know he's nuts so that if they weren't cowards, we could be rid of him. ...but yeah... that's not happening.
 
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Dear Italy,
Your PM just defended Pope and lost an ally in Washington — the Commander in Grief, yet the most 'powerfool'man on earth.

We'd like to apply for the vacancy.

Our qualifications: 7,000 years of civilization, a shared love of poetry, architecture, and food that takes longer to prepare than Trump's attention span.

The only thing Iran and Italy have ever fought over is who invented ice cream. Faloodeh came first. Gelato came louder. We've been in a 'cold' war over this for 2,000 years
 

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When I asked that question on April 7th, he had just said he was going to destroy the entire Iranian civilization. I was referring to more broadly needing the world to stop him. I have no idea what mechanism could be used but we didn’t know if he would actually go through with it. That kind of threat seems to be something the rest of the world needs to stand up against.
But how? Everyone else has made it clear they are having nothing to do with his war. But other countries, either individually or collectively, are in no position to take on the US and effect some kind of regime change, much as we might wish to.
 

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But how? Everyone else has made it clear they are having nothing to do with his war. But other countries, either individually or collectively, are in no position to take on the US and effect some kind of regime change, much as we might wish to.
I’m not going to put into words how but it definitely could be done. Would the world just sit by idly as a nuclear bomb is dropped on Iran?

At this stage I am not convinced he won't try to bomb Vatican City.
 
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When I asked that question on April 7th, he had just said he was going to destroy the entire Iranian civilization. I was referring to more broadly needing the world to stop him. I have no idea what mechanism could be used but we didn’t know if he would actually go through with it. That kind of threat seems to be something the rest of the world needs to stand up against.
And that's exactly why I posted that particular answer, and I'll reiterate: the Dems and much of the rest of the "free" and "democratic" and "civilised" world think he's doing the Drecksarbeit for them.
 

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When I asked that question on April 7th, he had just said he was going to destroy the entire Iranian civilization. I was referring to more broadly needing the world to stop him. I have no idea what mechanism could be used but we didn’t know if he would actually go through with it. That kind of threat seems to be something the rest of the world needs to stand up against.
Pleasing though it is to fantasise about a coalition of the willing launching their own version of operation Absolute Resolve (Absolute Shit, perhaps) to kidnap the insane and sadistic idiot whom the US electorate have imposed upon the rest of the world and deliver him to face his just deserts at The Hague, I don't see it happening.
 

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Pleasing though it is to fantasise about a coalition of the willing launching their own version of operation Absolute Resolve (Absolute Shit, perhaps) to kidnap the insane and sadistic idiot whom the US electorate have imposed upon the rest of the world and deliver him to face his just deserts at The Hague, I don't see it happening.
Not what I was saying but I agree that scenario I don’t see happening.
 

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By late March, the Pentagon had signed framework agreements with defense contractors to put the military on what it called a “wartime footing.” And now it isn’t just pressuring defense contractors. It’s reaching beyond the defense industry entirely, asking the companies that build our cars to start building our bombs. That is not what a country does when a war is almost over. That is what a country does when it is preparing for something much bigger.

And the numbers confirm it. Today, The Washington Post reported that the United States is deploying more than 10,000 additional troops to the Middle East before the end of April. Roughly 6,000 aboard the USS George H.W. Bush carrier group, and another 4,200 from the Boxer Amphibious Ready Group and the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit. These reinforcements will join the approximately 50,000 U.S. personnel already operating in the region, bringing the total to roughly 60,000 American service members and giving U.S. Central Command three aircraft carriers in theater. The Post’s own framing was telling. It said the deployment would allow the administration to continue negotiations with Iran while also preparing for “the possibility of additional strikes or ground operations.” That is not the language of peace. That is the language of a government hedging its bets on escalation while telling the public to look the other way.
 

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And that's exactly why I posted that particular answer, and I'll reiterate: the Dems and much of the rest of the "free" and "democratic" and "civilised" world think he's doing the Drecksarbeit for them.
Not sure on this one. On one hand, I know A LOT of people wanted Iran to be destroyed even if they didn't want to take part in that themselves. But on the other hand, Trump has done a lot of really dumb things that angered a lot of very powerful people, such as the trade war.
 
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