The Trump Presidency, Season 2

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Things did not go well for Trump at the Supreme Court during oral arguments for his challenge to birthright citizenship. It went so poorly he stormed out after making a big show of being there.


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This video, presented by Michael Popok of Legal AF, discusses a historic and highly contentious oral argument at the United States Supreme Court regarding birthright citizenship. Donald Trump became the first sitting president to attend an oral argument at the Supreme Court, but left approximately 45 minutes into the session (0:52-0:58, 15:35-15:43).


Key takeaways from the oral argument:
  • Hostile Reception: The Trump Administration's position, argued by John Sauer, faced intense skepticism not only from the liberal justices but also from the court's conservative wing, including Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Amy Coney Barrett, Justice Brett Kavanaugh, and Justice Neil Gorsuch (1:01-1:13).
  • Core Legal Conflict: The administration sought to reinterpret the 14th Amendment's citizenship clause, arguing it was intended primarily for formerly enslaved people, rather than providing broad birthright citizenship for all persons born in the U.S. (1:52-2:09).
  • The Justices' Counterpoints:
    • Chief Justice John Roberts: Highlighted that while the world has changed since the 19th century, the Constitution remains the same (4:54-5:06).
    • Justice Amy Coney Barrett: Questioned how the administration's interpretation could be applied practically, specifically regarding issues of domicile and intent (6:58-7:44, 11:28-12:16).
    • Justice Neil Gorsuch: Challenged the argument by noting the lack of restrictive immigration laws in 1868 (8:38-9:16).
    • Justice Brett Kavanaugh: Pointed to 20th-century congressional statutes that reaffirmed the 14th Amendment language, complicating the administration's historical narrative (10:49-11:14).
Analyst's Prediction: Michael Popok predicts a likely 7-2 or 6-3 decision against the Trump Administration, maintaining the current understanding of birthright citizenship as protected by the 14th Amendment (17:47-18:06). He characterizes the event as an existential fight for the soul of America and interprets Trump's early departure as a sign that he realized the legal arguments were failing (15:35-15:43, 17:09-17:46).
 

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[MTG, Carlson]... decend into irrepevancy.
One more example of Noodles' auto-correct being an absolute mad genius.

"Irrepevancy" -- the state of being so irrelevant that you represent absolutely nothing. :applause:
 

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On a similar note, only three weeks ago we were told

 
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Things did not go well for Trump at the Supreme Court during oral arguments for his challenge to birthright citizenship. It went so poorly he stormed out after making a big show of being there.
For the MAGA crowd that supports this travesty of a plan, I wonder how many of them could prove citizenship with their parents' birth certificates.

My father was born in 1905 at home on his family's farm. He died in the 1990s, some 30 years ago, and I have no clue where his birth certificate is by now, or whether there's an official record of his birth somewhere in rural Texas. And I guarantee I'm not the only older American who would be in this situation.

All the people who have run away from home or severed ties with their birth family, same dilemma: no way to produce records that prove your parents were citizens.

On a sheer practical level, this would be a nightmare to administer.
 

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On a sheer practical level, this would be a nightmare to administer.
I halfway suspect Trump knows this is an insane impossibility. I think their actual plan is to selectively use this to deport people they already want to deport. Enforcing this across the board would probably deport a double digit percentage of all Americans. It would be national suicide.

At least like this, Trump can go crying to his base about how the deep state controls the Supreme court since they'd not rubber stamp his totally insane act.
 

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On a sheer practical level, this would be a nightmare to administer.
Naahhh ..... you just apply it retroactively, then you can deport anybody who damn well deserves it.</s>
 

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The kinky community involves people injecting their busts with freakishly large amounts of saline in pursuit of a “Barbie-doll”-like appearance.
Is that the same stuff she's injecting into her face?
 

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There are so many choices for where to deport me -- on my mom's side, we were, one might say, "a seafaring family." English, German, Spanish, even some alleged Russian. Dad's side seems to have been French Huguenots. When the Huguenots became unfashionable due to some little misunderstanding, they beat a hasty retreat to the Netherlands, apparently in lieu of becoming French galley slaves, a position they felt did not offer them the sort of learning opportunities they were seeking. Then, for reasons unknown, it seems they moved on to Scotland and, finally, the US.

I would not be totally against being deported to Scotland, but I have not checked with the Scots about that. There might have been a misunderstanding there, too.
 

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Continuing the inflation of his narcissism.

Donald Trump Wonders to Karoline Leavitt's Face if Bad Publicity Is Her Fault: ‘You’re Doing a Terrible Job’
Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office while signing an executive order on Tuesday, March 31, Trump, 79, launched another attack on the press, before turning his attention to Leavitt, 28, who is expected to go on maternity leave next month as she welcomes her second child.

Referencing the 2024 presidential election, he said, “I got 93% bad publicity, some people say 97, but between 93 and 97. A person that gets 97% of bad … maybe Karoline's doing a poor job, I don't know.”

Trump then turned to address Leavitt directly, telling her, "You're doing a terrible job."
PEOPLE understands the comments were made as a joke, as noted by a White House representative.
Ha ha. What a funny guy.
 

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WTF.



Very A.I. sloppy production, but what is the point of all the planes taking up space in this proposed "library?" I get the presence of Air Force One (Saudi Arabian Edition), though with it's presentation at one point, it looks like they'd have to clip the wings to fit it into the buiding.



And what's with the fighter jets? Do they represent the planes Kuwait shot down?
 

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Driving up to the Evergreen Museum you go around a bend and there is a long view of the glass front of the building with the Spruce Goose fully visible. This is of course not a 7474 in an urban setting where you can't see it from more than across the street. It just looks so out of place trying to cram an airliner in a skyscraper simply out of spite so the next president can't use t.
 
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Trump is unhappy she hasn't broken the law hard enough. MAGA are mad because she did or didn't release enough Epstein files. Actual attorneys are disgusted with her dismissing career prosecutors for investigating things Trump didn't want investigated. Congress wasn't impressed by her put-down session disguised poorly as testimony. In the end she pissed off all conceivable sides and ruined the DoJ's reputation for professionalism and independence.

This does not mean she will be replaced with someone more professional or qualified. Trump will be leaning into political prosecutions and looking for someone to ignore more laws.
 
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Trump is unhappy she hasn't broken the law hard enough. MAGA are mad because she did or didn't release enough Epstein files. Actual attorneys are disgusted with her dismissing career prosecutors for investigating things Trump didn't want investigated. Congress wasn't impressed by her put-down session disguised poorly as testimony. In the end she pissed off all conceivable sides and ruined the DoJ's reputation for professionalism and independence.

This does not mean she will be replaced with someone more professional or qualified. Trump will be leaning into political prosecutions and looking for someone to ignore more laws.
Indeed!
I also have to do the thing in this thread:



Though it is interesting that both of the Cabinet members he's fired recently have been women.
 

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The seedier parts of the Bondi is out story.

While a majority believes that Pam Bondi was fired because Donald Trump was not happy with the way her department handled the Epstein investigation. Trump believed that the DoJ did not investigate his rival enough in the Epstein case. But another section velieves that it was because of Eric Swalwell. Trump believes Bondi tipped off Eric Swalwell about the FBI's efforts to release investigative documents related to Swalwell's relationship with an alleged Chinese spy.
Swalwell asked the FBI not to release files on his past association with Christine Fang, alo known as 'Fang Fang'. In a cease and desist letter sent by Swalwell’s lawyers to FBI Director Kash Patel on Monday, Swalwell, a leading Democratic candidate in California’s governor's race, asked that Patel and the FBI agree in writing by Wednesday not to release the files.
 

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Trump is unhappy she hasn't broken the law hard enough. MAGA are mad because she did or didn't release enough Epstein files. Actual attorneys are disgusted with her dismissing career prosecutors for investigating things Trump didn't want investigated. Congress wasn't impressed by her put-down session disguised poorly as testimony. In the end she pissed off all conceivable sides and ruined the DoJ's reputation for professionalism and independence.

This does not mean she will be replaced with someone more professional or qualified. Trump will be leaning into political prosecutions and looking for someone to ignore more laws.
Yeah.... I have nothing but disgust for Bondi but worry Trump will have an even worse, more degenerate loyalist to replace her with. He certainly didn't fire her for the right reasons.