The Israeli Goverment Has Become The Monster

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When I see all of this happening in plain sight and people still fucking defend it, I feel like I am losing my fucking mind.
That's how I feel whenever I try to explain anything about politics to some of my older relatives... Many of the same people really think Trump and Bibi are great leaders as if all their evil wasn't in plain sight.

I do feel Israeli nationalism is a bit different from MAGA in a few ways. Most MAGA defenders are dumb as rocks, where as a lot of Israeli defenders seem a lot less stupid, but are just totally in love with an idealized version of Israel that is just not real.
 

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Five murdered in a terrorist attack on the Islamic Center of San Diego. Of course, the mainstream media aren't calling it that.

You'll not convince me the Israeli govt. doesn't have some or most of the responsibility for these deaths, alongside CNN and the rest of them that published the recently rereleased but long ago discredited (especially in Israel) report on Oct 7 systematic sexual abuse by Cochav Elkayam-Levy.

 
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Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich threatens to declare war on the entire world and destroy everything if an arrest warrant is issued against him.

He declares himself and Netanyahu’s government above the law and says war crime accusations do not apply to them.

“And in the face of a declaration of war, we will respond with war.”

“I promise all of you, this is only the beginning.”
 

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The AIPAC lobby and Miriam Adelson managed to interfere in a primary in KY and successfully unseated Thomas Massie in favor of their candidate of choice that has taken $11 million from them. Massie is not going down without a fight though. He still has 7 months left to fight, and the crowd at his concession event were enthusiastically supportive of him. He even got in a few digs, including that he was sorry he was late but it took him awhile to find his opponent in Tel Aviv to concede.
 
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The AIPAC lobby and Miriam Adelson managed to interfere in a primary in KY and successfully unseated Thomas Massie in favor of their candidate of choice that has taken $11 million from them. Massie is not going down without a fight though. He still has 7 months left to fight, and the crowd at his concession event were enthusiastically supportive of him. He even got in a few digs, including that he was sorry he was late but it took him awhile to find his opponent in Tel Aviv to concede.
Louis Rossmann also puts voters before their responsibility - because these ads won't work without a stupid majority.
 
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Many, myself included, make the distinction that it is the Israeli government that is the monster. When I see more and more horrific behavior by the Israeli “settlers” and others, it is harder and harder not to think there is a terrible rot that is pervasive in their society.

 

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The UK govt. Foreign Office unit tracking Israel’s potential breaches of international law has closed due to cuts.


Katie Fallon, the advocacy manager at Campaign Against Arms Trade, said closing the IHL cell would protect ministers and senior Foreign Office officials “who know that they have been manipulating the data on potential violations of IHL, beyond any logical interpretation, to obscure unimaginable violations and crimes committed against the most vulnerable people in conflict and sustain arms sales at any cost”.

“The timing of this closure is notable,” she said. “As Olly Robbins explained to a parliamentary committee this week, the civil service is under pressure to give the government the answers that they want. Nowhere is this more clear than on ensuring arms sales to ‘allies’ continue, despite the risks of war crimes.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/23/foreign-office-unit-israel-potential-breaches-international-law-closed
 
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Many, myself included, make the distinction that it is the Israeli government that is the monster. When I see more and more horrific behavior by the Israeli “settlers” and others, it is harder and harder not to think there is a terrible rot that is pervasive in their society.

I make that distrinction, too. While also well aware of the crushingly persuasive brain-washing of all Israeli citizens from a very early age to see all arabs and especially Palestinians as immanent threats to their lives.

This does not excuse, merely explains why some Israelis, like die hard MAGAs, still support BIBI, the mass-murderer.
 

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I make that distrinction, too. While also well aware of the crushingly persuasive brain-washing of all Israeli citizens from a very early age to see all arabs and especially Palestinians as immanent threats to their lives.

This does not excuse, merely explains why some Israelis, like die hard MAGAs, still support BIBI, the mass-murderer.
Yes, though they do more than support him - they actively take part in the violence gleefully. It is not a problem with Jews, it is a problem with the Zionist brainwashing in Israel and the magical thinking that they are "god's chosen people", which is just ethno-religious supremacy.
 
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I make that distrinction, too. While also well aware of the crushingly persuasive brain-washing of all Israeli citizens from a very early age to see all arabs and especially Palestinians as immanent threats to their lives.

This does not excuse, merely explains why some Israelis, like die hard MAGAs, still support BIBI, the mass-murderer.
It's antisemitic to make that distinction, because to be against Israeli apartheid is to be against Jews.