The Israeli Goverment Has Become The Monster

[Faunile]

It’s tough to watch what's happening. A lot of people feel like the government has crossed a line, especially with the impact on civilians. Those new missles attack ruined a lot.

 

[Enatalin]

Idk man but these days have been a nightmare for the locals.

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

I wonder what these will be edited into in a few days.

 

[Veritable Quandry]

I wonder what these will be edited into in a few days.

Probably CBD gummies from an online store that totally would never sell you regular gummy bears with a CBD sticker slapped on the package but who are we kidding we should probably never have entered our credit card number but at least someone is having a good time in Mexico with our money and they actually sent the gummy bears so that's something to sadly chew on physically and metaphorically while we are on hold with the credit card company and maybe an AI grammar site that edits run-on sentences but has a five-year subscription hidden in the terms and conditions.

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Reminds me to take my fibre gummies so I can shit.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

I wonder what these will be edited into in a few days.

seriously.... it's so overt in this case. I think Cris usually likes to wait till they prove they are spam, but in this instance it's especially clear with the double fake accounts.

 

[Scylla Rhiadra]

When I was very young, Israel were the "good guys," making the desert fertile, bringing "democracy" to the Middle East, rebuilding themselves after the horrors of the Holocaust. Palestinians? They blew up airplanes and murdered Olympic athletes.

My "awakening," if you want to call it that, was Sabra and Shatilla, which happened when I was too young to really be aware, but that I learned about maybe 6 years or so later. And slowly I began to learn more about the history, the Balfour Declaration, the Nakba, the Irgun and Stern Gang, the King David Hotel . . .

I think I have a reasonably sophisticated understanding of what is indeed a complex problem in an enormously complicated part of the world -- made much more so by the idiocy of the West. I've decided that there are no "good guys" at all here -- not Israel, not Hamas or Hezbollah, not Fatah. And not the US, UK, EU, or Canada.

However.

In the past year, I've seen videos of headless toddlers held in the arms of their fathers, of children with their heads hollowed out by bombs. I've read about Hind Rajab, trapped in a car with her dead family, and shot dead by the IDF, along with three medics who'd arrived to save her.

Today, I've read about 5 Palestinian children killed while playing on the street by an Israeli drone, and 15 dead and scores wounded by the bombing of a school serving as a refugee shelter.

And I've seen utterly horrifying videos of patients in makeshift hospital tents, being burned alive by Israeli bombs while still tethered to their IVs.

It's important, of course, to know the history, to understand the geopolitical realities, and so forth.

But right now, the ONLY thing that matters to me is making the fucking killing stop.

 

[Ellie]

Exactly.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Unfortunately, though, neither the governments of Israel or Iran, nor the leadership of Hamas nor Hezbollah, seem particularly disturbed by the killing, or at least not sufficiently concerned that they're prepared to end it other than on terms completely unacceptable to at least one of the other parties, so it will continue.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Meanwhile the IDF have attacked an UNIFIL installation in Lebanon.

The UN peacekeeping force in southern Lebanon says Israeli tanks forced their way into one of its positions early on Sunday morning.

In a statement, the UN Interim Force in Lebanon (Unifil) said two Israel Defense Forces (IDF) tanks destroyed the main gate of a post in Ramyah, near the Israeli border, and "forcibly entered the position" to request it turn out its lights.

About two hours later, it said rounds were fired nearby that saw smoke enter the camp, causing 15 peacekeepers to suffer skin irritations and gastrointestinal reactions.

The IDF offered a different version of events, saying it had encroached on a Unifil position to evacuate soldiers who had been wounded by an anti-tank missile.

It said two soldiers had been "seriously injured" in the attack, with others suffering lesser degrees of injury.
"For the sake of evacuating the wounded, two tanks drove backwards, in a place where they could not advance otherwise in light of the threat of shooting, a few metres towards the Unifil position," the IDF said.
It added that during the incident, a smoke screen was fired to aid the evacuation - and that it had "maintained continuous contact" with Unifil, stressing there was "no threat to the Unifil force from IDF activities".
UN secretary general António Guterres warned any attacks on peacekeepers "may constitute a war crime", adding that "Unifil personnel and its premises must never be targeted".
"Attacks against peacekeepers are in breach of international law, including international humanitarian law," Mr Guterres said, according to a statement from his spokesman.
The incident is the latest in a growing number of encounters between Unifil and Israeli forces.
Israel has repeatedly urged the peacekeeping force to withdraw from areas of southern Lebanon where fighting was taking place, after it began a ground incursion on 30 September targeting the armed group Hezbollah.
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Unifil to "immediately" get its troops "out of harm's way" in a video statement issued by his office on Sunday, claiming that their presence in the region made them "hostages of Hezbollah".
Unifil has so far refused these requests.

UN says Israeli tanks forced entry to its position in south Lebanon as Netanyahu tells peacekeepers to leave

It comes as PM Netanyahu demands the peacekeeping force leave the area.

www.bbc.com

3 days before that incident Joe Biden urged Israel to stop attacking UNIFIL peacekeepers in Lebanon.

US urges Israel to stop shooting at UN peacekeepers in Lebanon

Israel has acknowledged that shots fired by its military injured two UN troops in southern Lebanon on Friday.

www.bbc.com

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Emmanuel Macron has something to tell Netanyahu, namely he warned Israel’s prime minister not to forget that “his country was created by a UN decision”, a few days after the Israeli ambassador to France was summoned, and Israel repeatedly fired on UN peacekeepers.

“Therefore this is not the time to disregard the decisions of the UN,” he added, as Israel wages a ground offensive against the Iran-backed Shiite militant group Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, where the UN peacekeepers are deployed.

In clash with Netanyahu, Macron says Israel PM 'mustn't forget his country created by UN decision'

Referring to the resolution adopted in November 1947 by the United Nations General Assembly on the plan to partition Palestine into a Jewish state and an Arab state, Macron warned Israel’s prime minister…

www.france24.com

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Israel has declared Yahya Sinwar, Hamas leader and architect of the terror attacks of 07/10/2023, as dead. His elimination was one of the main goals of the current war in Gaza. He was killed during an attack on Gaza.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/2024-10-17/ty-article/.premium/number-1-on-israels-hit-list-yahya-sinwar-the-hamas-leader-likely-killed-by-idf-in-gaza/00000192-9aca-d8fa-a9df-fbca33df0000

 

[Scylla Rhiadra]

His elimination was one of the main goals of the current war in Gaza

I think that's true, but rather than being a sort of checkbox ticked off on their to-do list, Israel will see this as an opportunity to press home their attacks, under the assumption that Hamas will now be less capable of responding in a coherent way. Much as the decapitation of Hezbollah in Lebanon signaled an intensification of their assault there.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

What's more concerning about this is how Iran and Lebanon will react, because this was one of the most prominent and important leaders of Hamas.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

Israel has declared Yahya Sinwar, Hamas leader and architect of the terror attacks of 07/10/2023, as dead. His elimination was one of the main goals of the current war in Gaza. He was killed during an attack on Gaza.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/2024-10-17/ty-article/.premium/number-1-on-israels-hit-list-yahya-sinwar-the-hamas-leader-likely-killed-by-idf-in-gaza/00000192-9aca-d8fa-a9df-fbca33df0000

I'm happy he's dead. I'm a bit cautious before hoping this brings and end to the war though. ...at least not for a while longer.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

I'm happy he's dead. I'm a bit cautious before hoping this brings and end to the war though. ...at least not for a while longer.

Netanyahu has pledged the complete eradication of Hamas. I don't think this war is over by a long shot.

 

[Free]

Meta has a policy chief for Israel and the Jewish Diaspora? OK, sure...

Meta’s Israel Policy Chief Tried to Suppress Pro-Palestinian Instagram Posts

Jordana Cutler, Meta’s policy chief for Israel and the Jewish Diaspora, repeatedly flagged for censorship posts by Students for Justice in Palestine.

theintercept.com

Israeli government official now working as Meta’s Israel policy chief personally pushed for the censorship of Instagram accounts belonging to Students for Justice in Palestine — a group that has played a leading role in organizing campus protests against Israel’s ongoing war in Gaza.

Internal policy discussions reviewed by The Intercept show Jordana Cutler, Meta’s Israel & the Jewish Diaspora policy chief, used the company’s content escalation channels to flag for review at least four SJP posts, as well as other content expressing stances contrary to Israel’s foreign policy. When flagging SJP posts, Cutler repeatedly invoked Meta’s Dangerous Organizations and Individuals policy, which bars users from freely discussing a secret list of thousands of blacklisted entities. The Dangerous Organizations policy restricts “glorification” of those on the blacklist, but is supposed to allow for “social and political discourse” and “commentary.”

 

[Ellie]

No surpise.
Years ago, I found online details of mossad black ops conducted against Jewish Iranians they wanted to move to Isreal & bring their money with them. All gone now. Much deemed negative has been scrubbed from many platforms by hasbara operatives utilizing the anti-semitic card to scare site owners.

Ultimately, this discourse is meant to operate in juxtaposition against the “backward” Palestinian – to further dehumanise them among western audiences and soften criticism of Israel.

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/the-art-of-deception-how-israel-uses-hasbara-to-whitewash-its-crimes-12766404

 

[Free]

Maybe it's not just the government.

 

[Ellie]

Maybe it's not just the government.

To be fair, these are settlers, who are by nature extremists, and do not represent all Israelis.

Huge Sky News reported this, breaking from the gag order the Israeli gov. attempts to enforce on all news outlets.