The Catholic Church Should Burn

Soen Eber

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The Catholic Church in America 20 years back were the pro-immigration organization. Where the fuck are they during this time of abductions by masked ICE agents, upending of due process, and the El Salvadoran concentration camp shit going on?
Pope John Paul came down pretty hard on the 'liberation theology' movement, and I think he shifted some of the principals around. And then there was Ratzinger, but I'm just guessing. There are missing puzzle pieces on immigration and Catholicism and am dealing with a foot issue and insurance red tape so ... not really much into doing a deep dive right now..
 

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The Catholic Church in America 20 years back were the pro-immigration organization. Where the fuck are they during this time of abductions by masked ICE agents, upending of due process, and the El Salvadoran concentration camp shit going on?
I just Googled "catholic church us immigration crackdown" and "catholic church us el salvador Venezuelan deportations" and got plenty of hits like


and



There seem to be plenty of Catholics doing something, or trying to, or at least protesting, about the kidnappings and deportations, but they're maybe not getting much publicity.

Though since Trump and his administration don't seem to care much about what the federal courts think of all this, they're probably not particularly interested in what Catholic cardinals, bishops and lay activists think about it either.
 
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Pope John Paul came down pretty hard on the 'liberation theology' movement,
You mean JP2? Yeah, he equated that with Communists. Which is also why he tended to go easy on the excesses of Capitalism. And of course conservatives in the US loved JP2 because of how anti-commie, and anti-socialist he was. Cold War politics and all that. And how he cracked down on lefty clergy "south of the border" in places where the US supported capitalist dictatorships.

Modern American right wingers just want Francis to demonize the gays and trans and not talk about poverty and the excesses of capitalism. If the Catholic Church started doing that more, Evangelical Protestants would turn on the Catholics right quick. And it would be just like the old days.
 

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There are no suggestions that John, who is also Bishop of Bangor, behaved inappropriately himself, however reports published last month laid bare “a culture in which sexual boundaries seemed blurred” at Bangor Cathedral as well as other failings.

These included “conduct in some areas — relating to alcohol use and sexual behaviour — that did not reflect the professional standards expected in a Christian church”; “the presence of hurtful gossip, both in person and online, which caused pain and division”; and “weak financial controls, unclear reporting lines, and spending decisions that were insufficiently scrutinised”.
Oh my. It all sounds quite Bacchanalian.
 

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I was about to comment on the issue being one that could happen in any community, amongst any profession. Until the claims of witchcraft were made against him. Not typically something a supervisor might bring up in a plumbers union. Unless they're wizard plumbers.
Now, IT, on the other hand...
 

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IT is into satanism, not witchcraft.
You should see me try to fix a printer issue on Windows 11.

Actually, come to think of it, you may be right.
 

Soen Eber

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And here I thought IT was into socks. Thanks for the correction!