The anti-SJW trap

[Kizz]

Some of you are probably well aware that I had fallen into the anti-SJW trap for a while. For a few years, actually. They’re a mighty powerful force on many online platforms, especially YouTube. All I can really say is that I’m sorry for falling into that trap. I can't undo the past.

Anti-SJWs generally end up being traditionalists, a lot of neophobes, and many of them are doing it sadly because they've been convinced it's rebellious. And it’s funny in a sad way, they claim that they’re individualists, yet promote (or at the very least, turn a blind eye to) ideologies that say that everyone should be the same.

And filled within their ranks are people who are Trump supporters, NOT because they agree with his policies, but because “it triggers leftist snowflakes”. People like Sargon of Akkad and many others.

Now I’m certainly not saying that there aren’t problems on the left; the extreme left is just as bad as the extreme right, but most people aren’t extremists.

But it’s really disheartening to see people who would usually be on the left supporting rightist ideologies just because they don’t like the extreme left, and they’ve been somehow convinced that extremists are what the democratic party stands for. It's to the point where if a democrat says "we need to fight back", there'll be headlines saying "democrat promotes violence".

Have you ever had any luck in getting people out of that mode? How did you do it? The way *I* got out of some of that mode was the fact that as a gay man, I was getting targeted by the traditionalism, as well as I've always been a neophile. But what of those who will never be targeted by that? The people who fit the white, straight, male, cisgender, Christian demographic? How will those people get out of it?

 

[eku zhong]

anti-sjw? Anti-Single Japanese Women? Anti-Softner Jersey Washer? Anti-Soft Jerk Wanker???

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

SJW = social justice warriors. It's a derogative term let's say Republicans amongst others would use for the kind of people who fight for LGTB+-rights, demand safe spaces and diversity in movies, companies, boards etc. everywhere they go, and discriminate each other far worse - just google Ruby Rose Batwoman - than their so called enemies would do.

You know in short this type of people here bullying a professor over "hurt feelings":


And this is Yale. Ivy league. Poor America.

 

[Free]

@eku zhong Soft Jerk Wanker?

 

[Free]

"hurt feelings"

 

[Myficals]

You know in short this type of people here bullying a professor over "hurt feelings":

 

[Archer]

the kind of people who fight for LGTB+-rights, demand safe spaces and diversity in movies, companies, boards etc.

OH THE HORROR!!!!!!

 

[Jacqueline Trudeau]

Just using the derogatory term "SJW" you are falling into the trap.

 

[Ishina]

and discriminate each other far worse... than their so called enemies would do.

Ah yes, the angry lefty college kid - so much worse than anything coming from the far right.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

I don't know. For me it looks like that the left has developed some kind of techniques which can strangle down almost every kind of discussion, if needed - and that the far right now have learned those techniques, and are using them against the left.

For example like this:

 

[Jolene Benoir]

...the extreme left is just as bad as the extreme right, but most people aren’t extremists.

You are still not exactly seeing reality, here.

and discriminate each other far worse - just google Ruby Rose Batwoman - than their so called enemies would do...

... the left has developed some kind of techniques which can strangle down almost every kind of discussion, if needed - and that the far right now have learned those techniques, and are using them against the left

Far worse, eh? Worse than supporting putting children in cages? Worse than supporting nazis who would murder people based upon their skin color, religion or sexuality?

The right has *learned* bad behavior from the left? Sure. They aren't authoritarian of their own accord, at all.

Both of you are exhibiting the "both sides are equally bad" distortion of reality, with one of you appearing to believe that the pretenses of the left (lol) are far worse than the evils of the right.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Given the track record of so called communist/socialist countries, like the USSR under Stalin with the Great Purge and deportations or the "great leap forward" under Mao in China - yes, both sides can be equally bad if they got the opportunity to do so.

 

[Blue Green]

In some places even mentioning any form of discrimination will get you labeled as a social justice warrior now.
It has become an effective tactic used by the right to eliminate concerns of the left.
Not sure what the solution is.

 

[Blue Green]

Given the track record of so called communist/socialist countries, like the USSR under Stalin with the Great Purge and deportations or the "great leap forward" under Mao in China - yes, both sides can be equally bad if they got the opportunity to do so.

You are comparing whiny college kids to Stalin and Mao?

 

[Jolene Benoir]

Given the track record of so called communist/socialist countries, like the USSR under Stalin with the Great Purge and deportations or the "great leap forward" under Mao in China - yes, both sides can be equally bad if they got the opportunity to do so.

How did I know that you would come back with that? What exactly does that have to do with the far left of today? You are blasting people on the left as being far worse than the right of today. Who on the left is emulating Stalin or Mao as the right is emulating nazis and klansmen?

 

[Kalel]

Have you ever had any luck in getting people out of that mode? How did you do it? The way *I* got out of some of that mode was the fact that as a gay man, I was getting targeted by the traditionalism, as well as I've always been a neophile. But what of those who will never be targeted by that? The people who fit the white, straight, male, cisgender, Christian demographic? How will those people get out of it?

i believe humans learn from experience. we are all brainwashed to a certain degree.

Until they get targeted, until they experience it for themselves( or someone close to them experiences it) and are willing to change.... some people may never break out of it.

 

[Ishina]

I almost envy the cushy, safe-living existence where student protests are the worst threat to your quality of life.

 

[Kizz]

Just using the derogatory term "SJW" you are falling into the trap.

I suppose, but there isn't another single term that describes the situation better, at least not something that fits in a thread title.

 

[Kizz]

You are still not exactly seeing reality, here.



Far worse, eh? Worse than supporting putting children in cages? Worse than supporting nazis who would murder people based upon their skin color, religion or sexuality?

The right has *learned* bad behavior from the left? Sure. They aren't authoritarian of their own accord, at all.

Both of you are exhibiting the "both sides are equally bad" distortion of reality, with one of you appearing to believe that the pretenses of the left (lol) are far worse than the evils of the right.

Extremists on the left, if they had their way, would have literally open borders, would have full-on discrimination of the majority demographic, would have quota systems in place enforcing "equality of outcome", and would make stating non-progressive views illegal.

Extremists on the right, if they had their way, would have literally completely closed borders, would have full-on discrimination of the minority demographic, would have systems in place that allow for discrimination of anyone, and would make stating negative things about Christianity illegal.

When people use Hitler or Stalin as some sort of comparison, it's ridiculous, we need to judge by what's actually CURRENTLY out there.

 

[Jacqueline Trudeau]

I suppose, but there isn't another single term that describes the situation better, at least not something that fits in a thread title.

Thread titles aren't bumper stickers. Certainly you could come up with something less pejorative. That is, if you've really escaped from that "anti-SJW trap" after all.