The 2024 U.S. Presidential race

[Cindy Claveau]

 

[Cindy Claveau]

 

[Cindy Claveau]

Outcry over Trump’s hint at ‘little secret’ with House Republicans

Donald Trump faced mounting suspicion of hatching a plot to steal next week’s presidential election as Democrats and commentators focused on his references to a “little secret” at Sunday night’s tumultuous Madison Square Garden rally.

The allusions initially attracted little notice amid the angry backlash provoked by racist jokes and incendiary rhetoric from a succession of warm-up speakers, including an offensive comment about Puerto Ricans that even Trump’s own campaign felt obliged to disavow.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/28/steve-bannon-prison
However, some observers and Democratic politicians believed the most telling remark of the night came from the Republican nominee himself after he introduced Mike Johnson, the Republican House speaker, on stage and alluded to a shared secret.

“We gotta get the congressmen elected and we gotta get the senators elected,” Trump told the crowd, referring to the congressional elections at stake next week.

“We can take the Senate pretty easily, and I think with our little secret we are gonna do really well with the House. Our little secret is having a big impact. He and I have a little secret – we will tell you what it is when the race is over.”

 

[Beebo Brink]

If I hadn't already cancelled my Washington Post subscription, I would have done it today. Front page, above the fold:

Tony West, Harris’s brother-in-law, is corporate insider and campaign adviser - The Washington Post

tl:dr - there might possibly be some potential hypothetical conflict of interest concerning Harris' brother-in-law, if you squint sideways and hold your right elbow with your left hand.

I have two words in reply: Jared Kushner.

 

[Noodles]

Trains you say?

See, voting Jill Stein helped promote mass transit!

 

[Cindy Claveau]

If I hadn't already cancelled my Washington Post subscription, I would have done it today. Front page, above the fold:

Tony West, Harris’s brother-in-law, is corporate insider and campaign adviser - The Washington Post

tl:dr - there might possibly be some potential hypothetical conflict of interest concerning Harris' brother-in-law, if you squint sideways and hold your right elbow with your left hand.

I have two words in reply: Jared Kushner.

I took a day to let the dust settle, but it turned out the dust was actually Bezos. His "clarification" was nothing more than one big gaslight.

Canceled.

 

[Monica Dream]

Fucking Biden! All he had to do was sit down and shut the fuck up and he couldn't even do THAT!
Biden sets off a firestorm with his response to Trump rally comedian's Puerto Rico comments

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The thing that pisses me off isn't that he's wrong (he's not) or that he'll drive people to trump (doubtful) it's that he broke the cardinal rule "NEVER GET IN THE WAY OF SOMEONE WHO IS SELF DISTRUCTING".

The Trump speech was ..WAS PAST-FUCKING-TENSE WAS a wonderful October surprise which could have pushed Kamala Harris over the finish line. COULD HAVE if only Biden COULD HAVE KEPT HIS MORONIC FUCKING MOUTH SHUT! Now Biden's idiocy has taken the focus off of Trump being a fuck-up and that could give Trump the win.

Seriously -what the flying FUCK was Biden's problem? Why couldn't he simply put a fucking sock in it?

 

[Beebo Brink]

Fucking Biden! All he had to do was sit down and shut the fuck up and he couldn't even do THAT!
Biden sets off a firestorm with his response to Trump rally comedian's Puerto Rico comments

I don't see any signs of this "firestorm" anywhere. Checked all my usual news sources, and no one is covering this. I'd sorta be surprised if they did, given that Biden isn't really considered newsworthy anymore, even though he's still, like, the president and all that.

 

[Monica Dream]

I don't see any signs of this "firestorm" anywhere. Checked all my usual news sources, and no one is covering this. I'd sorta be surprised if they did, given that Biden isn't really considered newsworthy anymore, even though he's still, like, the president and all that.

It was filling the top part of my google news feed (which I curate and trim out right wing papers off of), and there were a number threads on r/politics about it. It would be nice to think it'll sink like a stone, but even so, it still took pressure off of Trump -which redditors are saying was the media doing Trump a solid.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

I don't see any signs of this "firestorm" anywhere. Checked all my usual news sources, and no one is covering this. I'd sorta be surprised if they did, given that Biden isn't really considered newsworthy anymore, even though he's still, like, the president and all that.

I'm wondering how many people who were still in two minds about for whom to vote (if there are any) or -- more likely -- in two minds about whether they could be bothered to turn out or not and actually vote for Trump will actually go out and vote for him because of something Joe Biden said, particularly when most Trump supporters seem to think the retiring president is doolally anyway, and doesn't know what he's saying most of the time.

Meanwhile

 

[Innula Zenovka]

Making BA late again....

 

[Monica Dream]

As far as the 'firestorm' goes, here's what was on my feed when I woke up:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/30/politics/biden-garbage-gaffe-analysis/index.html

Musk asks to move $1 million lottery case to federal court

The hearing will come a day earlier than scheduled and the judge stipulated that all parties be present.

abcnews.go.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/29/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico/

Biden suggests Trump supporters are 'garbage' after comic's insult of Puerto Rico

President Joe Biden's tone was at odds with the message that Democratic nominee Kamala Harris is seeking to present as she aims to cast a broad appeal, including to disaffected Republicans.

apnews.com

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/30/nx-s1-5172187/joe-biden-garbage-trump-puerto-rico

Harris and Trump target Wisconsin with four days to go

Both candidates will hold Milwaukee rallies in Wisconsin push, with VP picks heading to fellow swing state Michigan.

www.bbc.com

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/us/politics/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-reaction.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/oct/30/kamala-harris-donald-trump-joe-biden-us-election-news-updates

Looks like defeat from the jaws of victory to me.

 

[Free]

Hey, it's not like he called them deplorable or anything like that.




I guess it's a shame Trump still isn't running against Biden, huh?

 

[Beebo Brink]

Joe Biden isn't on the ticket. And calling this an election changing event is baseless hyperbole.

 

[Isabeau]

Essay, not too long of a read.

The myth of red states and blue states

There is only one America, and we’re all still living in it

lyz.substack.com

The myth tells us that America is cut up into places that are insulated and isolated from one another. Red states where they can pretend their kids aren’t gay. Blue states where they can pretend that abortion access is easy.

The reality is and always has been that if you are insulated from the realities of American politics, you are rich or a white guy (or both!). And there is nothing more political than that.

The only real bubble is wealth — enough cash money to paper over a series of political injustices and enough access to move around the barriers to health care, child care, and education.

But for the most part, for the majority of Americans, these political islands do not exist. We live in this mess of a world, bumping against each other’s prejudices and fears, and trying to find a way through it. We have always understood each other. We just wanted to pretend otherwise.

 

[GoblinCampFollower]

As far as the 'firestorm' goes, here's what was on my feed when I woke up:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/30/politics/biden-garbage-gaffe-analysis/index.html

Musk asks to move $1 million lottery case to federal court

The hearing will come a day earlier than scheduled and the judge stipulated that all parties be present.

abcnews.go.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/29/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-puerto-rico/

Biden suggests Trump supporters are 'garbage' after comic's insult of Puerto Rico

President Joe Biden's tone was at odds with the message that Democratic nominee Kamala Harris is seeking to present as she aims to cast a broad appeal, including to disaffected Republicans.

apnews.com

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/30/nx-s1-5172187/joe-biden-garbage-trump-puerto-rico

Harris and Trump target Wisconsin with four days to go

Both candidates will hold Milwaukee rallies in Wisconsin push, with VP picks heading to fellow swing state Michigan.

www.bbc.com

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/us/politics/biden-trump-supporters-garbage-reaction.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/oct/30/kamala-harris-donald-trump-joe-biden-us-election-news-updates

Looks like defeat from the jaws of victory to me.

This really just shows the immense double standard in the media. Calling an actual community "garbage" in an obviously racist way won't hurt Trump as much as calling a political group "garbage" in response... given neither comment came from the actual candidate.

Joe Biden isn't on the ticket. And calling this an election changing event is baseless hyperbole.

It's a bit hyperbole... yes... but you're thinking about this logically and not in the way low information contrarians often think of things. Most such people were already voting for Trump anyway, so I think this is only worth worrying about because Kamala's lead is razor thin.

 

[Monica Dream]

I think this is only worth worrying about because Kamala's lead is razor thin.

Her lead IS razor thin and that is exactly why Joe shooting his mouth off has me losing my shit.

 

[Monica Dream]

I guess it's a shame Trump still isn't running against Biden, huh?

The real shame is that it eases the pressure off of Trump and his Madison Square Garden fiasco.

 

[Beebo Brink]

It's a bit hyperbole... yes... but you're thinking about this logically and not in the way low information contrarians often think of things. Most such people were already voting for Trump anyway, so I think this is only worth worrying about because Kamala's lead is razor thin.

It's more painful for Democrats to see Biden make an unforced error that makes everyone cringe. Harris has run a flawless campaign and this incident just drives home that Biden could not have done as well. It will not change any minds, it will not throw the election.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

This really just shows the immense double standard in the media. Calling an actual community "garbage" in an obviously racist way won't hurt Trump as much as calling a political group "garbage" in response... given neither comment came from the actual candidate.



It's a bit hyperbole... yes... but you're thinking about this logically and not in the way low information contrarians often think of things. Most such people were already voting for Trump anyway, so I think this is only worth worrying about because Kamala's lead is razor thin.

Is it "razor thin," though? Polls generally come with a health warning that they are 95% confident that the results for each candidate are accurate to within 3% either way. So a poll that shows Harris at 50.5% and Trump at 49.5% (or vice versa) could, in fact, mean that Harris is at 53.5% and Trump at 46.5% (or Harris at 47.5% and Trump at 52.5%), or anywhere in between. Furthermore, as I understand it, despite this 95% confidence, historically polls reflect the actual vote, within the stated margins of error, only about 60% of the time, not 95%, and that's only counting polls conducted in the last month before polling day.

All we know is that neither candidate is likely to win by a landslide.

Yet again,

The Garden of Forking Paths | Brian Klaas | Substack

Wandering around an infinitely complex, ever-changing world. Click to read The Garden of Forking Paths, by Brian Klaas, a Substack publication.

substack.com

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Question: Do people think that Biden's remark will have a greater or a lesser effect on the outcome of the election than wll the weather on election day in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania? If so, why?