Supreme Court Rules Against Affirmative Action

[WolfEyes]

US supreme court ‘creeping dangerously towards authoritarianism’, AOC says (msn.com)

 

[Veritable Quandry]

Are they allowed to consider the socio-economic status of candidates and their parents? Seems to me that might be a good way both of promoting diversity and for providing opportunities to students from under-represented backgrounds.

At OSU we have a number of programs for first generation students the benefits both under represented minority students and rural students.

 

[Jopsy Pendragon]

This whole event kind of begs the question.

What if schools, workplaces, etc, just, continue diversity based hiring. Can some white dude sue if he loses the job to a black woman now because "Affirmative action isn't legal."

They'd certainly try. Though if I were a shrewd employer, I might counter with "If you brought as much talent/skill/experience to the position and you're willing to work for less than we're paying her, we would have hired you instead. As it was... she was the more cost effective candidate."

 

[Noodles]

They'd certainly try. Though if I were a shrewd employer, I might counter with "If you brought as much talent/skill/experience to the position and you're willing to work for less than we're paying her, we would have hired you instead. As it was... she was the more cost effective candidate."

We need to be able to react with a laugh AND a cry at once.

Like, seperately.

 

[Katheryne Helendale]

Agreeing that SCOTUS essentially said that, not that people with student debt can eat shit and die.

 

[Aribeth Zelin]

Yes but maybe pissing off people like me isn't the best idea....

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

From there we'll warp into the eighteen-fifties so have to stop this backward motion at all costs.

They want to party like it's 1829, Andrew Fucking Jackson and all.

 

[Khamon]

It is true.

 

[Jolene Benoir]

Legacy admission, born on 3rd base, venture capitalist

OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush once crashed his car into a train and was charged with drunk driving while at Princeton: report

Princeton's student newspaper, The Daily Princetonian, said that Rush was involved in a "series of arrests" when he was a student.

www.insider.com

The submersible inventor's father, also named Stockton Rush, was a Princeton alum who graduated in 1953.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

At OSU we have a number of programs for first generation students the benefits both under represented minority students and rural students.

In most discussions about race, black Americans are regarded as constituting a singular community. However, black America has been, for most of the past half-century, the most unequal racial or ethnic group in the nation. White Americans in the top income quintile possess 21.3 times the wealth of white people in the lowest income quintile. For black people, that figure stands at a staggering 1,382. The poorest black people earn just 1.5% of the median black income.

This disparity shapes everything from education to incarceration. More than 70% of Harvard students come from the wealthiest 20% of families; 3% come from the poorest 20%. There were almost as many students from the wealthiest 1% as from the poorest 60%.

The greatest lack of diversity in America’s elite universities, in other words, is not racial but class-based. It is, though, one that deeply affects black Americans, because that same pattern of elite recruitment applies to African Americans as it does to the population as a whole. Affirmative action is action largely for the black elite.

 

[Beebo Brink]

The greatest lack of diversity in America’s elite universities, in other words, is not racial but class-based.

This is similar to Bernie Sanders' "a rising tide lifts all boats" perspective, but I believe it's flawed. Both class AND race come to bear on black Americans. The resulting pressures may feel the same -- bottom is bottom either way -- but erasing class issues would not be enough to turn this around.

 

[Innula Zenovka]

This is similar to Bernie Sanders' "a rising tide lifts all boats" perspective, but I believe it's flawed. Both class AND race come to bear on black Americans. The resulting pressures may feel the same -- bottom is bottom either way -- but erasing class issues would not be enough to turn this around.

I didn't read it that way -- he seemed to be saying that affirmative action helps that small minority of Black students from wealthy and middle-class families but doesn't do much to help most of the Black population.

I don't know a great deal about it, but over here Oxford and Cambridge have, in recent years, been working very hard to recruit students from state schools in lower-income areas that don't have a tradition of sending students to Oxbridge. These generally have a lot of pupils from ethnic minorities.

Presumably giving preferential treatment to candidates from lower-income backgrounds would, in the US, be particularly beneficial to Black students because, as a result of both historical and contemporary racism, Black Americans are disproportionately over-represented in the lowest income groups.

In the UK it would be illegal to discriminate either in favour or against potential students on the grounds of their race or ethnicity, so we approach the issue rather differently.

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

I’m in a downtown pub next to a pride flag crosswalk having a Bud Lite. That’s my affirmative action for the day.