Nobody cares about "AI" (Chatbot: I disagree.)

[detrius]

I want a full movie.

 

[Free]

Good job there, Microsoft.

Microsoft Bing Copilot blames reporter for crimes he covered

Hallucinating AI models excel at defamation

www.theregister.com

Microsoft Bing Copilot has falsely described a German journalist as a child molester, an escapee from a psychiatric institution, and a fraudster who preys on widows.

Martin Bernklau, who has served for years as a court reporter in the area around Tübingen for various publications, asked Microsoft Bing Copilot about himself. He found that Microsoft's AI chatbot had blamed him for crimes he had covered.

I'm sure the future holds many, many defamation lawsuits for shit like this.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

Well, his name was associated with the text, and that's all it takes.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Australia's Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) has been conducting tests about how good or bad AI summarises documents, and if these summaries might create additional work for people.

They've been randomly selection inquiries from parliament and consultancy firms, and used LLMs like LLama2-70B and others to generate summaries. Ten humans from their stuff with various levels of work experience have been given the same tasks and orders as well.

The resulting summaries were then reviewed in a blind test, without letting the testers know that AI was involved.

The results are clear: the reviewers scored the humanly made reviews at 81% while the machine ones at 47%. Reviewers mentioned that the AI summaries often missed emphasis, nuance and context. 3 of 5 reviewers suspected they were reviewing AI generated content.

The overall feedback was that the reviewers felt the AI summaries may be counterproductive and generate further work because of the need to fact-check.“This finding also supports the view that GenAI should be positioned as a tool to augment and not replace human tasks,” the report concluded.

AI worse than humans in every way at summarising information, government trial finds

A test of AI for Australia's corporate regulator found that the technology might actually make more work for people, not less.

www.crikey.com.au

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Captain Obvious has been visiting the RAND Corporation. RAND investigated why so many AI projects fail, and identified five main reasons:

• First, industry stakeholders often misunderstand — or miscommunicate — what problem needs to be solved using AI.
• Second, many AI projects fail because the organization lacks the necessary data to adequately train an effective AI model.
• Third, in some cases, AI projects fail because the organization focuses more on using the latest and greatest technology than on solving real problems for their intended users.
• Fourth, organizations might not have adequate infrastructure to manage their data and deploy completed AI models, which increases the likelihood of project failure.
• Finally, in some cases, AI projects fail because the technology is applied to problems that are too difficult for AI to solve.

No shit, Sherlock!

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RRA2680-1.html

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

OKAY!

So, spouse asked me if we had any fish sauce. Probably not because I had to look it up to see what it was. Of course Google handed me nothing but promoted clickbait blogs that after scrolling and scrolling I could not find an answer to the question before my eyes glazed over.

So I opened up an Edge session as I've used Bing CoPilot for some random lookups and asked it "What is fish sauce?" In seconds I had a tight description of what it is, how it's made, and some common uses.

I next asked, what is a good substitute for fish sauce? And it gave me a point by point list of six options and their relative merits.






Fuck SEO manipulation and promoted content on google, man.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

Yeah - Google like all search engines has been going down steadily over time but they've tanked dramatically in the last year - like enough that it's not just the normal complainers talking about it now. It's nothing but sponsored links and AI-generated garbage anymore.

 

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

AI-generated garbage anymore.

That's what I found to be the hilarious part, I could only get a straight answer when directly asking a large language model.

I even said thank you.

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

I don't know what I'm doing "wrong" but when I searched Google for fish sauce I got a small number of ads for brands of fish sauce, a recipe, a few ingredient lists, and a link to the Wikipedia article on fish sauce.

 

[Noodles]

Well, his name was associated with the text, and that's all it takes.

It's one thing I really find hilarious about AI and how it "learns".

There used to commonly be Reddit posts like, "Here is a picture of a Ferret, up vote it so it's the first result on Google when you search Argent Stonecutter."

I personally never believed that actually did anything.

But in AI's case. AI is stupid, and that sort of manipulation absolutely would affect AI.

 

[Noodles]

fish sauce - Bing

Check out what I just created on Bing Image Creator

www.bing.com

 

[Casey Pelous]

Fish sauce:

Good fish sauce:

I see a trip to Richmond in your future.

(For those not familiar, Richmond is where a huge number of Hong Kongers relocated back in '97 when HK went back to the Chinese.)

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

The organization behind National Novel Writing Month says that condemning the use of AI to write books is not just wrong but also classist and ableist, which I never thought are words I'd ever read from an organization like that; but then their website says that one of their major sponsors this year is ProWritingAid which is an AI story-writing program and I was like "Ah, now I understand."

 

[Free]

This forum thread is starting to smell fishy.

 

[Dakota Tebaldi]

I believe it's referred to as "thread adrift".

 

[Argent Stonecutter]

The organization behind National Novel Writing Month says that condemning the use of AI to write books is not just wrong but also classist and ableist,

I saw that and my WTF meter exploded.

 

[Free]

I believe it's referred to as "thread adrift".

On a fish-scented sea, yes.

 

[Free]

The organization behind National Novel Writing Month says that condemning the use of AI to write books is not just wrong but also classist and ableist

I'd be interested to see what responses from members look like, but I no longer recall my login details for their forums, and I'm not so interested as to set up a new account (especially since I'm not participating).

 

[Free]

Score one for the humans!

AI worse than humans in every way at summarising information, government trial finds

A test of AI for Australia's corporate regulator found that the technology might actually make more work for people, not less.

www.crikey.com.au

Artificial intelligence is worse than humans in every way at summarising documents and might actually create additional work for people, a government trial of the technology has found.

Amazon conducted the test earlier this year for Australia’s corporate regulator the Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) using submissions made to an inquiry. The outcome of the trial was revealed in an answer to a questions on notice at the Senate select committee on adopting artificial intelligence.

These reviewers overwhelmingly found that the human summaries beat out their AI competitors on every criteria and on every submission, scoring an 81% on an internal rubric compared with the machine’s 47%.

 

[Free]

US, EU, UK, and others sign legally enforceable AI treaty

But will it have any real impact?

www.theverge.com

The US, UK, and European Union have signed the first “legally binding” treaty on AI, which is supposed to ensure its use aligns with “human rights, democracy and the rule of law,” according to the Council of Europe.

The treaty, called the Framework Convention on Artificial Intelligence, lays out key principles AI systems must follow, such as protecting user data, respecting the law, and keeping practices transparent. Each country that signs the treaty must “adopt or maintain appropriate legislative, administrative or other measures” that reflect the framework.