Microsoft Edge Review

[Kara Spengler]

It's quite often that such old browser junk still is a necessity in corporate environments, because the in house tools for various stuff are being build for IE.

It is a game of dominoes. Decades ago businesses adopted IBM. Then winslow cam along for PCs and of course they had to have that. Which led to them thinking MS office and IE were the only possible options for them because they came from the same company.

Right now I am in a teams vs slack holy war. Of course the teams people argue that more people have it. Of course, because it is bundled with office 365.

 

[Kara Spengler]

Back in the Day of Netscape vs IE, I remember litterally half my pages were javascript to account for differences between the two.

I still write code that tests for IE and does something nonstandard.

 

[Fionalein]

I still write code that tests for IE and does something nonstandard.

Does it have a fallback option for those folks that just claim to be using IE? Because I worked on so many idiotic platforms that worked perfectly fine in any browser but required and checked for IE - refusing to open if you had no IE ... so I often camouflaged my browser as IE and let that button on because I am a lazy kitty.

 

[Kara Spengler]

Does it have a fallback option for those folks that just claim to be using IE? Because I worked on so many idiotic platforms that worked perfectly fine in any browser but required and checked for IE - refusing to open if you had no IE ... so I often camouflaged my browser as IE and let that button on because I am a lazy kitty.

Iit says "can you do this? no? okay, do this". No explicit tests for IE but if IE did things like everyone else that code would not exist.

 

[Bartholomew Gallacher]

Iit says "can you do this? no? okay, do this". No explicit tests for IE but if IE did things like everyone else that code would not exist.

Well yes, this was part of Microsoft's embrace open standards and add proprietary additions on your own in order to hug them to death. Back then they used it to erase Netscape Navigator, nowadays Google did the same with Chrome to erase Edge.

Ironically Edge's rendering engine was quite standards compliant, but Google used ways on Youtube to sabotage the user experience there on purpose, so giving Microsoft a dose of their own medicine.

The bad thing about is though that while there's a vast browser ecosystem out there in reality there's only one rendering engine which dominates the market - and that's Webkit/Blink, because it's on every smartphone/tablet and almost every PC as well.

On smartphones Firefox has no mentionable market share and on PCs - well - some.

So basically Google can mold the WWW at their liking, and sometimes they are abusing this power in their favor nowadays without remorse.

 

[Cristiano]

The new Edge browser has a tool to make it easier to read web pages

In this guide, we'll show you the steps to get started using immersive reader to remove the clutter on web pages allowing you to focus on the main content in the Chromium version of Microsoft Edge.

www.windowscentral.com

 

[Ashiri]

The new Edge browser has a tool to make it easier to read web pages

In this guide, we'll show you the steps to get started using immersive reader to remove the clutter on web pages allowing you to focus on the main content in the Chromium version of Microsoft Edge.

www.windowscentral.com

Looks like a good idea but:

Quick note: Immersive reader is only available for specific web pages. If you don't see the button in the address bar, the page doesn't support the feature.

 

[Noodles]

Speaking of many tabs.

I really wish there was a way in Firefox to make two rows of tabs. Basically, Pinned tabs on a lower row, with regular tabs on top.

 

[Clara D.]

Speaking of many tabs.

I really wish there was a way in Firefox to make two rows of tabs. Basically, Pinned tabs on a lower row, with regular tabs on top.

You can have multiple rows, it just takes a custom userChrome.css (created a chrome folder in your FF profile, then add a userChrome.css into it):

AFAIK it won't segregate types of tabs though -- I haven't played with it, with a widescreen laptop vertical space is more precious than horizontal.

How to Split Firefox Tabs in Multiple Rows

This article covers how to split Firefox tabs in multiple rows. You will be able to add one or two extra rows for Firefox tabs.

www.ilovefreesoftware.com

Firefox is still heavily customizable, but it has to be done manually since the changes in extensions keep them from working directly with the UI. TabMixPlus went the way of the dodo.

 

[Noodles]

You can have multiple rows, it just takes a custom userChrome.css (created a chrome folder in your FF profile, then add a userChrome.css into it):

AFAIK it won't segregate types of tabs though -- I haven't played with it, with a widescreen laptop vertical space is more precious than horizontal.

How to Split Firefox Tabs in Multiple Rows

This article covers how to split Firefox tabs in multiple rows. You will be able to add one or two extra rows for Firefox tabs.

www.ilovefreesoftware.com

Firefox is still heavily customizable, but it has to be done manually since the changes in extensions keep them from working directly with the UI. TabMixPlus went the way of the dodo.

I will have to look into this for sure. Pinned tabs pull tonthe front of the line so even if it's not perfect it should be good enough.

Once I get to like 20-30 pinned tabs, the actual tabs get all compacted with this useless scroll bar and I can never find anything anymore.

 

[Kara Spengler]

How is the resource usage? A lot of people think running windows 10 on a massively underpowered machine is a good idea and may use that to blame something that probably wants more memory than ie.

 

[Clara D.]

How is the resource usage? A lot of people think running windows 10 on a massively underpowered machine is a good idea and may use that to blame something that probably wants more memory than ie.

Of the new Edge? Same as any other Chrome-based browser, pretty horrid

4G would be "barely enough" if that's *all* they're using the computer for, and likely to start pounding the page file if too many tabs are opened.

On my machine windows alone at idle is a bit over 2G.

 

[Fionalein]

I yesterday installed the Win 10 Enterprise VM edition in a virtual machine, they reccomended me 2 GB of RAM... and yes it came with Edge, LOL opening the browser took forever even after I ramped up the RAM to 8 GB...

 

[Clara D.]

I yesterday installed the Win 10 Enterprise VM edition in a virtual machine, they reccomended me 2 GB of RAM.

M$, you so crazy.

 

[Free]

I yesterday installed the Win 10 Enterprise VM edition in a virtual machine, they reccomended me 2 GB of RAM...

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." ~Bill Gates

Or... The '640K' quote won't go away -- but did Gates really say it?

 

[Kara Spengler]

Of the new Edge? Same as any other Chrome-based browser, pretty horrid

4G would be "barely enough" if that's *all* they're using the computer for, and likely to start pounding the page file if too many tabs are opened.

On my machine windows alone at idle is a bit over 2G.

Yeah, that is pretty much what I thought. It is a prime reason why I now laugh at the idea of only putting 8gb of ram in a machine.

 

[Kara Spengler]

I yesterday installed the Win 10 Enterprise VM edition in a virtual machine, they reccomended me 2 GB of RAM... and yes it came with Edge, LOL opening the browser took forever even after I ramped up the RAM to 8 GB...

Two, that is insane! I have not seen a properly configured machine that I would consider usable with only 2 GB for about a decade. Even if you do not do photoshop or something people run lots of open tabs.

 

[Clara D.]

Yeah, that is pretty much what I thought. It is a prime reason why I now laugh at the idea of only putting 8gb of ram in a machine.

I have 8G and it's workable, I can do Firefox, Blender, and SL all at the same time.

I use Cleanmem which helps, especially when dealing with "leaky" software like browsers.

Before adding the SSD paging with a single HDD was certain doom (watch hard drive LED go solid and not be able to do anything because Windows can't prioritize I/O).

Probably sometime next month (new battery is more important) I'll be going up to 16G and a quad-i7.

 

[Kara Spengler]

I have 8G and it's workable, I can do Firefox, Blender, and SL all at the same time.

I use Cleanmem which helps, especially when dealing with "leaky" software like browsers.

Before adding the SSD paging with a single HDD was certain doom (watch hard drive LED go solid and not be able to do anything because Windows can't prioritize I/O).

Probably sometime next month (new battery is more important) I'll be going up to 16G and a quad-i7.

If you can optimize so you page as little as possible, great. I am talking about users who you wonder how they manage to login every morning. You know, the people who make support calls and you eventually figure out they got a new system and did not reinstall their software.

An ssd and 16 gb are probably the two best bang for your buck upgrades on any system. An i7 vs an i5 is also good. If it will be a royal pain to upgrade later think about 32 gb, but unless you have a need for it now that is just future proofing.

 

[Clara D.]

If you can optimize so you page as little as possible, great. I am talking about users who you wonder how they manage to login every morning. You know, the people who make support calls and you eventually figure out they got a new system and did not reinstall their software.

An ssd and 16 gb are probably the two best bang for your buck upgrades on any system. An i7 vs an i5 is also good. If it will be a royal pain to upgrade later think about 32 gb, but unless you have a need for it now that is just future proofing.

32G will have to wait for a completely different computer, I'm limited by hardware (Sandy Bridge and only two slots)